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Hey, Siri.

2
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Send a message to Cheryl.

3
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Front reception.

4
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<i>What do you want to say?</i>

5
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Amos is already heading
there to pick him up, period.

6
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Please forward any calls
I get to Brady, period.

7
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<i>Your message to
Cheryl front reception</i>

8
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<i>says Amos is already heading
there to pick him up.</i>

9
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<i>Please forward any calls
I get to Brady.</i>

10
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<i>Ready to send it?</i>

11
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Yes.

12
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Okay, it's sent.

13
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Hey, Siri.

14
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How do you know if you're
doing the right thing?

15
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<i>I'm not sure I understand.</i>

16
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But what do you believe

17
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is the difference between
right and wrong?

18
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<i>Hmm.</i>

19
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<i>I don't have an answer for that.</i>

20
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<i>Would you like me to
search the web?</i>

21
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No.

22
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<i>Okay, is there
something else I can help with?</i>

23
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Set a reminder to pick up Kyle

24
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from therapy tomorrow at 4:45.

25
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<i>Okay, I'll remind you.</i>

26
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Hi, special agent Deena Helms.

27
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You've already met
Agent McCullough.

28
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You can call me Amos.

29
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- Uh, agents?
- Have a seat for us, Gareth.

30
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Do you mind answering a
couple questions?

31
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Great, this shouldn't take long.

32
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You're from Tampa, right?

33
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Don't overthink it.
It's a yes or no.

34
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Yeah.

35
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How old are you, Gareth?

36
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29.

37
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What do you do for work?

38
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I'm sorry, am I being detained?

39
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No, not at all.

40
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We're just asking
questions, background stuff.

41
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You work on movies, right?

42
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Special effects.

43
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Someone told me you worked

44
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on that new "Star Wars"
movie, is that right?

45
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Who told you that?

46
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Why don't you tell us
more about it?

47
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Tell us about your work.

48
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I used to do VFX for an
animation company.

49
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I've worked on at least
20 different films.

50
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Used to?

51
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I've been focusing more

52
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on software engineering
recently for years-

53
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Sounds boring compared
to light sabers.

54
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Why quit?

55
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I wasn't getting paid well.

56
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But money's not an
issue for you.

57
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Excuse me?

58
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What kind of effects did you do?

59
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Money's not an issue for me?

60
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-Let's talk about-
-If money wasn't an issue for me

61
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I wouldn't have applied
for your grant.

62
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I didn't mean to
suggest anything.

63
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Tell us what kind of
effects you did.

64
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My main focus was on
3D renderings.

65
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Of what?

66
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- Actors.
- What for?

67
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Well, for "Star Wars,"

68
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it was because the actor
I was tasked to digitize

69
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was unavailable to be
filmed in person.

70
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Why?

71
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Because they were dead.

72
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What'd they have you do?

73
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I reconstructed Alec
Guinness' face as a 3D model.

74
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I analyzed reference footage,

75
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then used a process called
D-Term to procedurally generate

76
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his bone and muscle structures,

77
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which one rigged helped
the animation feel

78
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more natural and human-like.

79
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D-Term, I've never heard
of that process before.

80
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Because I invented it.

81
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So you're basically bringing

82
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dead actors back to life?

83
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I just tried to make
the CG characters look as

84
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photorealistic as the technology
at the time would allow.

85
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You didn't find it creepy?

86
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I'm sorry, what?

87
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I said you don't find
that creepy?

88
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Well, we did our best to
cross the uncanny valley.

89
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But when the human
brain perceives

90
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that something is just slightly
off and it doesn't matter-

91
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No, I mean,
digitizing dead people.

92
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Christ, I mean, it's,

93
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it's almost like turning
someone's corpse

94
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into a marionette, you know?

95
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Making them do
whatever you want.

96
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What if the poor dead guy

97
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didn't want to be in
another fucking movie?

98
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It's so macabre.

99
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Am I crazy? Is it not macabre?

100
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I don't think the studio cares

101
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whether it's macabre or not.

102
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Look, I can never tell
the difference.

103
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I always can.
The faces look like Play-Doh.

104
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Well, we did our best.

105
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Soon we won't even need actors,
right?

106
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Everyone will just be digital.

107
00:05:03,033 --> 00:05:04,776
No, you still need them
for motion tracking.

108
00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,811
Human performances can't be
completely computer generated.

109
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How long will that be true?

110
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Some might say we've already
crossed that threshold.

111
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I wouldn't know.

112
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Where'd you go to school?

113
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- Brooks-DeBartolo High.
- And after?

114
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Nothing?

115
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What about Columbia?

116
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Didn't you go to Columbia?

117
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Wait, no.
You dropped out of Columbia

118
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after how many semesters?

119
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Three?

120
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Bjarne Stroustrup said

121
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you were the smartest
kid he ever met.

122
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I don't know who he is, but
Amos says it's a big deal.

123
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Then you moved to the
Netherlands,

124
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spent some time as an intern,

125
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applied and got into Cambridge.

126
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Very nice.

127
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Except that you dropped
out after two years.

128
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Flew back to the States,

129
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interned in Palo Alto,
then Montreal.

130
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Then went all the way
back to England,

131
00:06:01,992 --> 00:06:03,369
where you landed a job
in Sheffield.

132
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Second job in Manchester.

133
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Then got into Oxford where you
almost finished your masters

134
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before ditching the graduation

135
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and moving back here to Florida.

136
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If money was an issue,

137
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I'm glad you had plenty
of flyer miles.

138
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I didn't hear a question.

139
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What's your social life like?

140
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My, what does that have
anything to do-

141
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If you don't want to talk
about it, that's fine.

142
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We just wanted to know if
you have friends and stuff.

143
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- I have friends.
- A lot of them?

144
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- I have friends.
- Can you name one?

145
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- Can I what?
- Can you tell us the nam

146
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of just one of your friends?

147
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- Steve.
- Steve. Steve what?

148
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I don't know how this is
relevant to receiving the grant.

149
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Oh, we're just getting
to know you, Gareth.

150
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You got a girlfriend?

151
00:06:45,201 --> 00:06:46,612
Boyfriend?

152
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You, uh, talk to people online?

153
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I don't know what you
mean by that.

154
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I don't use social media.

155
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I mean more like chat rooms.

156
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You go on any chat rooms?

157
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No one uses chat rooms anymore.

158
00:07:05,255 --> 00:07:06,989
Sure they do.

159
00:07:08,091 --> 00:07:10,092
You chat with anyone online?

160
00:07:11,894 --> 00:07:14,029
- Sometimes.
- Sometimes.

161
00:07:14,431 --> 00:07:17,232
What kinds of people
do you talk to online?

162
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Gareth, obviously, this
isn't about a grant.

163
00:07:23,573 --> 00:07:25,941
We need to know
what your alias is.

164
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When you go online, what
name do you use?

165
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I don't have one.

166
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Yes, you do.

167
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And you need to tell
us what it is.

168
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Sorry, I can't help you.

169
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You know who we are?

170
00:07:53,236 --> 00:07:54,980
Well, this is the ICWL building.

171
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That's right.
You know what we do?

172
00:07:57,607 --> 00:07:58,951
Humanitarian work.

173
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That's what the
people upstairs do.

174
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You know what we do?

175
00:08:06,516 --> 00:08:08,617
We catch pedophiles.

176
00:08:10,286 --> 00:08:13,566
Amos here specializes in
tracking down online predators.

177
00:08:13,590 --> 00:08:15,568
He spends every waking hour

178
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scouring those chat
rooms you say no one uses

179
00:08:18,328 --> 00:08:22,030
and he finds thousands of
people soliciting children.

180
00:08:22,098 --> 00:08:25,144
Our operation is like a
tightly spun spider web

181
00:08:25,168 --> 00:08:28,013
connecting ICWL, the FBI, NSA,

182
00:08:28,037 --> 00:08:31,484
and let me tell you, his
team here is a vital thread.

183
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He reports everything he
gathers directly to me,

184
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and I see to it that the
necessary authorities

185
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take swift action.

186
00:08:38,114 --> 00:08:39,525
So are you in charge?

187
00:08:39,549 --> 00:08:42,184
This is my spiderweb.

188
00:08:42,986 --> 00:08:45,621
I'm the fucking spider, Gareth.

189
00:08:48,558 --> 00:08:52,138
Am I being detained?

190
00:08:52,162 --> 00:08:53,572
We already told you
that you're not detained.

191
00:08:53,596 --> 00:08:56,165
Good.

192
00:08:56,332 --> 00:08:59,334
But if you leave this
room, you will be arrested.

193
00:09:04,641 --> 00:09:06,608
For what?

194
00:09:08,344 --> 00:09:09,989
I told you what we do.

195
00:09:10,013 --> 00:09:11,713
Take a wild guess.

196
00:09:13,016 --> 00:09:14,593
I am not what you think I am.

197
00:09:14,617 --> 00:09:16,452
We'll see.

198
00:09:18,188 --> 00:09:20,733
Gareth, you just gotta
tell us your alias.

199
00:09:20,757 --> 00:09:23,459
What's your username?

200
00:09:26,763 --> 00:09:28,597
Sit down.

201
00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,224
- Why do you do this with them?
- Hmm?

202
00:09:45,248 --> 00:09:47,526
There's no way you do this
with every suspect you have.

203
00:09:47,550 --> 00:09:48,427
Invite them to your headquarters

204
00:09:48,451 --> 00:09:50,296
and then drag them down
into a basement.

205
00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,753
That's right.

206
00:09:51,821 --> 00:09:54,356
Why are you doing
this to me then?

207
00:09:55,458 --> 00:09:56,769
You tell us, Gare.

208
00:09:56,793 --> 00:09:59,294
What makes you so fuckin'
special?

209
00:10:00,730 --> 00:10:02,631
I don't know.

210
00:10:03,433 --> 00:10:05,110
What's your alias?

211
00:10:05,134 --> 00:10:09,004
- I don't have an alias.
- Yes you do.

212
00:10:09,572 --> 00:10:11,707
It starts with the word hard.

213
00:10:12,442 --> 00:10:14,576
Just finish the rest.

214
00:10:15,845 --> 00:10:17,256
Sit down, Mr. Federson.

215
00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,681
I only have a few
more questions.

216
00:10:31,528 --> 00:10:34,162
Do you recognize this girl?

217
00:10:41,838 --> 00:10:46,575
Do you know her?

218
00:10:48,545 --> 00:10:49,455
Yes.

219
00:10:49,479 --> 00:10:51,357
What's her name?

220
00:10:51,381 --> 00:10:52,758
Cherry.

221
00:10:52,782 --> 00:10:54,527
- Cherry what?
- She doesn't have a last name.

222
00:10:54,551 --> 00:10:56,161
Yes, she does, Gareth,
she's not Madonna.

223
00:10:56,185 --> 00:10:57,563
- She's a little girl.
- You don't understand.

224
00:10:57,587 --> 00:10:58,430
Yeah, well, I'd like to.

225
00:10:58,454 --> 00:10:59,732
So help me out, is she
your daughter?

226
00:10:59,756 --> 00:11:01,667
- No.
- Then whose daughter is she?

227
00:11:01,691 --> 00:11:02,735
- She, she doesn't have...
- How did you meet her?

228
00:11:02,759 --> 00:11:03,836
I didn't meet her.

229
00:11:03,860 --> 00:11:05,838
Then why do you have photos
of her on your computer?

230
00:11:05,862 --> 00:11:06,805
What the hell are you
talking about?

231
00:11:06,829 --> 00:11:08,641
Why do you fucking have photos

232
00:11:08,665 --> 00:11:09,875
of this girl on your fucking-

233
00:11:09,899 --> 00:11:10,743
Are you looking at
my hard drive?

234
00:11:10,767 --> 00:11:11,710
Because that's an
invasion of privacy.

235
00:11:11,734 --> 00:11:13,646
So you know what photos
I'm talking about?

236
00:11:13,670 --> 00:11:14,346
You don't have to do
it this way.

237
00:11:14,370 --> 00:11:15,781
I gave you permission to sit in.

238
00:11:15,805 --> 00:11:17,816
I did not give you
permission to speak.

239
00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,151
This is insane, you cannot keep-

240
00:11:19,175 --> 00:11:20,119
What else have you
done with her?

241
00:11:20,143 --> 00:11:21,620
- Nothing!
- Did you take the photos?

242
00:11:21,644 --> 00:11:22,555
It's, it's complicated.

243
00:11:22,579 --> 00:11:24,156
No, it's not! Yes or no?

244
00:11:24,180 --> 00:11:24,991
Did you take the photos?

245
00:11:25,015 --> 00:11:27,126
I didn't do anything wrong,
okay?

246
00:11:27,150 --> 00:11:30,162
Soliciting pornography of
minors is an egregious felony.

247
00:11:30,186 --> 00:11:33,132
Distributing that
pornography is tenfold worse.

248
00:11:33,156 --> 00:11:35,401
- I didn't do anything!
- Fucking prove it!

249
00:11:35,425 --> 00:11:38,760
What is your alias?

250
00:11:38,795 --> 00:11:40,272
Answer me!

251
00:11:40,296 --> 00:11:42,798
HardMachine11811.

252
00:12:00,416 --> 00:12:02,517
You're HardMachine.

253
00:12:03,653 --> 00:12:05,821
Thanks for confirming.

254
00:12:07,557 --> 00:12:09,936
If you knew, then why
do this to me?

255
00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:10,937
We weren't positive,

256
00:12:10,961 --> 00:12:12,671
and if you turned out
to not be HardMachine,

257
00:12:12,695 --> 00:12:14,896
you were obviously
just a predator.

258
00:12:19,402 --> 00:12:21,436
Do you keep track?

259
00:12:22,338 --> 00:12:25,451
I mean, do you know how many
bad people you've nailed?

260
00:12:25,475 --> 00:12:27,386
I didn't start
counting until 2023.

261
00:12:27,410 --> 00:12:29,755
196 convictions.

262
00:12:29,779 --> 00:12:30,756
There were at least 30

263
00:12:30,780 --> 00:12:32,691
before I started sending
everything to you guys.

264
00:12:32,715 --> 00:12:33,960
What'd you do before?

265
00:12:33,984 --> 00:12:34,827
I turned over

266
00:12:34,851 --> 00:12:36,295
all evidence directly
to the police.

267
00:12:36,319 --> 00:12:37,463
Why'd you stop?

268
00:12:37,487 --> 00:12:39,331
They were unreliable.

269
00:12:39,355 --> 00:12:40,866
- I doubt that.
- More than half of the predators

270
00:12:40,890 --> 00:12:42,368
I identified went
un-investigated.

271
00:12:42,392 --> 00:12:43,869
Yeah, well, you were
sketchy and faceless.

272
00:12:43,893 --> 00:12:46,271
They had every right to
be skeptical.

273
00:12:46,295 --> 00:12:47,439
It would've all been for nothing

274
00:12:47,463 --> 00:12:49,274
if they found out you were
using a little girl as bait.

275
00:12:49,298 --> 00:12:50,209
It's not that simple, okay?

276
00:12:50,233 --> 00:12:52,946
I can only do what I do
with anonymity.

277
00:12:52,970 --> 00:12:54,948
Here's my problem, Gareth,
and don't get me wrong.

278
00:12:54,972 --> 00:12:56,749
I think 200 terrible
people behind bars

279
00:12:56,773 --> 00:12:59,752
is a very good thing,
but not at her expense.

280
00:12:59,776 --> 00:13:01,888
Look, we think we can help you,

281
00:13:01,912 --> 00:13:03,489
but we need to help her too.

282
00:13:03,513 --> 00:13:06,725
Using your daughter to
entrap these people

283
00:13:06,749 --> 00:13:07,826
is a means that does not
justify the ends.

284
00:13:07,850 --> 00:13:08,895
She's not my daughter.

285
00:13:08,919 --> 00:13:09,963
And in spite of what you
may think you've achieved,

286
00:13:09,987 --> 00:13:11,797
I still have no reservation
with locking you up.

287
00:13:11,821 --> 00:13:13,332
You took the photos.

288
00:13:13,356 --> 00:13:14,500
I don't care why.

289
00:13:14,524 --> 00:13:16,335
You don't understand.

290
00:13:16,359 --> 00:13:17,436
Who is she?

291
00:13:17,460 --> 00:13:18,972
You're gonna ruin everything.

292
00:13:18,996 --> 00:13:22,764
She's a child, Gareth,
look at me.

293
00:13:23,599 --> 00:13:26,980
I don't give a damn what
fucked up anti-hero master plan

294
00:13:27,004 --> 00:13:28,614
of yours I might jeopardize.

295
00:13:28,638 --> 00:13:30,349
I won't let her be exploited.

296
00:13:30,373 --> 00:13:32,942
Not even for the sake of
locking up more perverts.

297
00:13:33,576 --> 00:13:36,588
I'm asking you politely
to let this one go.

298
00:13:36,612 --> 00:13:38,257
Are you fucking slow?

299
00:13:38,281 --> 00:13:39,159
Have you been listening at all?

300
00:13:39,183 --> 00:13:41,827
My anonymity is my most
important asset.

301
00:13:41,851 --> 00:13:43,562
Without that, I can't
do what I do.

302
00:13:43,586 --> 00:13:46,254
Well, that makes
everything easy then.

303
00:13:46,656 --> 00:13:48,834
You tell us where she is,
or we leak everything.

304
00:13:48,858 --> 00:13:50,469
- Your name, your aliases.
- Deena!

305
00:13:50,493 --> 00:13:52,538
Every single perp you
helped us catch.

306
00:13:52,562 --> 00:13:54,473
I'm sure they'll be very
pleased to meet you in jail.

307
00:13:54,497 --> 00:13:55,641
Stop!

308
00:13:55,665 --> 00:13:57,432
Okay.

309
00:14:00,003 --> 00:14:01,915
Look, if I tell you
about Cherry, okay,

310
00:14:01,939 --> 00:14:04,406
there's some things I'm
gonna need first.

311
00:14:04,607 --> 00:14:06,518
It doesn't really work like
that, Gareth, but go ahead.

312
00:14:06,542 --> 00:14:07,753
Give us your wishlist.

313
00:14:07,777 --> 00:14:09,621
I need a signed non-disclosure
agreement from both of you.

314
00:14:09,645 --> 00:14:10,856
- Not gonna happen.
- And then I need you to swear

315
00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:11,991
that the information I'm
about to relay

316
00:14:12,015 --> 00:14:13,492
won't leave this room.

317
00:14:13,516 --> 00:14:14,793
Look, if you tell us anything

318
00:14:14,817 --> 00:14:15,929
that could help us
locate Cherry,

319
00:14:15,953 --> 00:14:18,820
you know we can't keep
that promise.

320
00:14:19,622 --> 00:14:21,300
Okay, if I tell you anything

321
00:14:21,324 --> 00:14:23,937
that potentially helps
you find a missing child,

322
00:14:23,961 --> 00:14:24,971
okay, you can feel free
to share that.

323
00:14:24,995 --> 00:14:25,939
But I need you to swear

324
00:14:25,963 --> 00:14:29,731
that any other details
about myself or Cherry,

325
00:14:30,100 --> 00:14:32,467
have to stay between
the three of us.

326
00:14:33,669 --> 00:14:35,504
Is that it?

327
00:14:36,907 --> 00:14:38,941
And I need that camera
switched off.

328
00:14:40,077 --> 00:14:41,353
I don't know how to do that.

329
00:14:41,377 --> 00:14:42,588
Go to the head of
securities office,

330
00:14:42,612 --> 00:14:44,991
ask him to find this camera
in the system and disable it.

331
00:14:45,015 --> 00:14:47,315
I don't think he's
allowed to do that.

332
00:14:47,717 --> 00:14:49,851
I thought you were the
fucking spider?

333
00:14:53,523 --> 00:14:54,833
Give me a reason, Gareth.

334
00:14:54,857 --> 00:14:55,969
Why should I go through
all the trouble

335
00:14:55,993 --> 00:14:58,326
of getting that
camera turned off?

336
00:14:59,029 --> 00:15:01,998
Because if anybody finds out
what I'm about to tell you,

337
00:15:02,933 --> 00:15:05,801
a thousand more children
are gonna get abused.

338
00:15:08,838 --> 00:15:10,672
Give me a minute.

339
00:15:25,388 --> 00:15:31,693
So, uh, you and Cherry hunted
all those people together?

340
00:15:38,168 --> 00:15:41,147
This one time I spent six
weeks undercover trying

341
00:15:41,171 --> 00:15:44,539
to nail down a single
trafficker from the Philippines.

342
00:15:45,441 --> 00:15:46,552
Day after day,

343
00:15:46,576 --> 00:15:49,923
I spent hour after hour
following his trail online.

344
00:15:49,947 --> 00:15:51,057
And he must have been

345
00:15:51,081 --> 00:15:54,349
one of the hardest targets
I ever had to track down.

346
00:15:56,186 --> 00:16:01,567
Then one day I found him and
one of Cherry's live streams.

347
00:16:01,591 --> 00:16:03,468
I mean, she went by a
different name in the stream,

348
00:16:03,492 --> 00:16:05,894
but it was her.

349
00:16:06,429 --> 00:16:07,539
The trafficker,

350
00:16:07,563 --> 00:16:08,807
along with three of our
other targets

351
00:16:08,831 --> 00:16:10,843
were all in the room together.

352
00:16:10,867 --> 00:16:17,472
All of them just carelessly
sharing their information.

353
00:16:18,008 --> 00:16:23,022
I mean, and they were so open
'cause she was a real girl.

354
00:16:23,046 --> 00:16:24,790
I mean, she could physically

355
00:16:24,814 --> 00:16:27,950
and verbally respond to
them in real time.

356
00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:36,435
A couple days later,
HardMachine11811 sends ICWL

357
00:16:36,459 --> 00:16:38,104
another batch of names
and evidence,

358
00:16:38,128 --> 00:16:42,397
including the three targets
that were in the room.

359
00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,913
You know, I almost thought
the girl was HardMachine

360
00:16:46,937 --> 00:16:48,680
and that this nine year old

361
00:16:48,704 --> 00:16:52,942
just happened to be some
badass online vigilante.

362
00:16:54,543 --> 00:16:56,645
What changed your mind?

363
00:16:59,149 --> 00:17:01,683
11811.

364
00:17:01,985 --> 00:17:05,631
January 18th, 2011.

365
00:17:05,655 --> 00:17:10,525
Most of my team thought it
was, uh, some arbitrary number,

366
00:17:10,928 --> 00:17:15,497
but I remember what happened
on that day in Clearwater.

367
00:17:17,533 --> 00:17:20,435
You were one of the
Clearwater kids, weren't you?

368
00:17:21,004 --> 00:17:24,039
You know, my father was
a part of that raid.

369
00:17:26,776 --> 00:17:27,819
It's off, see?

370
00:17:27,843 --> 00:17:29,222
No red light.

371
00:17:29,246 --> 00:17:30,089
Non-disclosure agreements?

372
00:17:30,113 --> 00:17:31,190
We're not playing this game,
Gareth.

373
00:17:31,214 --> 00:17:34,216
You're just gonna have to
suck it up and trust us.

374
00:17:37,921 --> 00:17:40,588
You can trust us.

375
00:17:42,591 --> 00:17:44,103
I've been told I have
trust issues.

376
00:17:44,127 --> 00:17:46,996
Well, there's
only one way to fix that.

377
00:17:54,870 --> 00:17:57,649
The reason you can't
find Cherry,

378
00:17:57,673 --> 00:18:00,786
the reason why she doesn't
have a last name or parents,

379
00:18:00,810 --> 00:18:06,581
or a social security number
is because she's not real.

380
00:18:07,683 --> 00:18:09,884
She's not a real human being.

381
00:18:13,023 --> 00:18:15,024
Tell us what happened.

382
00:18:18,594 --> 00:18:20,073
While I was studying abroad,

383
00:18:20,097 --> 00:18:22,808
I interned at a small
Dutch animation studio

384
00:18:22,832 --> 00:18:24,177
a few years before
they collaborated

385
00:18:24,201 --> 00:18:26,712
with a local nonprofit on
a similar idea.

386
00:18:26,736 --> 00:18:28,270
Which was?

387
00:18:28,771 --> 00:18:30,316
The idea was to build a 3D model

388
00:18:30,340 --> 00:18:32,185
of an 11 year old Filipino girl

389
00:18:32,209 --> 00:18:35,121
and use her covertly to
identify online predators,

390
00:18:35,145 --> 00:18:38,091
A technological solution
to a technological problem.

391
00:18:38,115 --> 00:18:39,959
But the project was suspended
after only a few months.

392
00:18:39,983 --> 00:18:40,859
Yeah, I remember.

393
00:18:40,883 --> 00:18:42,895
I remember hearing
about that program.

394
00:18:42,919 --> 00:18:44,920
Is that what inspired you?

395
00:18:45,022 --> 00:18:46,265
As I got better at crafting
photorealistic faces,

396
00:18:46,289 --> 00:18:47,900
I decided to work on one myself.

397
00:18:47,924 --> 00:18:49,701
Why?

398
00:18:49,725 --> 00:18:52,105
It was too effective
of an idea to let die.

399
00:18:52,129 --> 00:18:54,573
Hundreds of thousands
of children are at risk.

400
00:18:54,597 --> 00:18:55,607
I had to make her.

401
00:18:55,631 --> 00:18:56,909
Who is she modeled after?

402
00:18:56,933 --> 00:18:58,011
No one, I built
her from scratch.

403
00:18:58,035 --> 00:18:59,145
Scratch?

404
00:18:59,169 --> 00:19:01,680
I started with a skull,
designed her bone structure,

405
00:19:01,704 --> 00:19:03,249
worked upwards through
muscles and tissue,

406
00:19:03,273 --> 00:19:05,151
used the D-Term program to
fill in the rest procedurally.

407
00:19:05,175 --> 00:19:08,988
Eventually she came to
look like that.

408
00:19:09,012 --> 00:19:11,656
A completely unique,
completely digital model.

409
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:12,824
I rigged her face and body

410
00:19:12,848 --> 00:19:13,825
the way you would for
any CG character.

411
00:19:13,849 --> 00:19:15,985
Then for three years,

412
00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,220
I used motion tracking to
puppeteer her in real time.

413
00:19:18,455 --> 00:19:18,998
You gotta understand that the
video chats on those sites

414
00:19:19,022 --> 00:19:19,999
have such low resolution

415
00:19:20,023 --> 00:19:22,768
that even in her earliest
stage of this, she,

416
00:19:22,792 --> 00:19:26,661
we appeared
completely authentic.

417
00:19:26,963 --> 00:19:28,964
And what about voice?

418
00:19:28,999 --> 00:19:30,209
For most of her first
year, she had to be mute.

419
00:19:30,233 --> 00:19:32,378
But eventually I found a decent
voice filter with no lag.

420
00:19:32,402 --> 00:19:33,880
And after a few tweaks
and adjustments,

421
00:19:33,904 --> 00:19:36,115
it's been the same
voice ever since.

422
00:19:36,139 --> 00:19:38,051
I, I, I thought initially,

423
00:19:38,075 --> 00:19:40,219
my performance was going
to be too unnatural.

424
00:19:40,243 --> 00:19:45,058
But with just one week of
occasional video chat sessions,

425
00:19:45,082 --> 00:19:47,026
I secured six different names,

426
00:19:47,050 --> 00:19:49,851
mailing addresses,
proofs of solicitations.

427
00:19:50,220 --> 00:19:51,197
Cherry worked.

428
00:19:51,221 --> 00:19:53,066
So the photos on your computer?

429
00:19:53,090 --> 00:19:55,034
- Completely fake.
- It was the only way

430
00:19:55,058 --> 00:19:56,135
some of them disclosed
personal information.

431
00:19:56,159 --> 00:19:59,005
But it was all zeros and
ones, all digital, right?

432
00:19:59,029 --> 00:20:01,007
- There's no real child.
- No real child.

433
00:20:01,031 --> 00:20:02,942
Just a highly detailed
computer model.

434
00:20:02,966 --> 00:20:05,011
And let me be clear
about something,

435
00:20:05,035 --> 00:20:05,811
I derive no pleasure
from doing any of this.

436
00:20:05,835 --> 00:20:07,813
I've been asexual my
entire life.

437
00:20:07,837 --> 00:20:09,681
I, I don't even get a
sense of satisfaction

438
00:20:09,705 --> 00:20:11,840
from seeing these
people locked up.

439
00:20:12,242 --> 00:20:15,777
I just think kids deserve a
life free of exploitation.

440
00:20:16,446 --> 00:20:20,382
Incredible, all this time.

441
00:20:20,417 --> 00:20:21,860
I'm not gonna lie, Gareth.

442
00:20:21,884 --> 00:20:24,220
Cherry's done us a lot of good.

443
00:20:24,787 --> 00:20:26,032
You know, I still remember
what you said to me

444
00:20:26,056 --> 00:20:28,157
the first time we corresponded.

445
00:20:28,258 --> 00:20:30,735
-You said-
-We corresponded?

446
00:20:30,759 --> 00:20:32,138
Yeah, man.

447
00:20:32,162 --> 00:20:34,029
I'm Gord51.

448
00:20:34,197 --> 00:20:36,898
I'm the one here you've been
sending all your intel to.

449
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,145
You're Gord?

450
00:20:39,169 --> 00:20:41,203
Yeah.

451
00:20:42,405 --> 00:20:44,140
You lied to me.

452
00:20:44,341 --> 00:20:46,285
You said I could stay anonymous.

453
00:20:46,309 --> 00:20:48,911
You said I would be safe.

454
00:20:49,712 --> 00:20:51,779
Now you've ruined everything.

455
00:20:51,948 --> 00:20:53,292
I, I didn't, I didn't
have a choice.

456
00:20:53,316 --> 00:20:54,693
You don't have to worry
about anything, Gareth.

457
00:20:54,717 --> 00:20:55,794
If Cherry isn't real,

458
00:20:55,818 --> 00:20:58,087
then you're not in any
trouble with us.

459
00:20:58,321 --> 00:21:01,134
In fact, we've discussed ideas
similar to this in the past,

460
00:21:01,158 --> 00:21:02,135
motion tracking and such.

461
00:21:02,159 --> 00:21:04,937
But we'd need a convincing
model like Cherry.

462
00:21:04,961 --> 00:21:05,770
Cherry's more than a model.

463
00:21:05,794 --> 00:21:07,240
You want to help children?
So do we.

464
00:21:07,264 --> 00:21:08,374
She's not for sale.

465
00:21:08,398 --> 00:21:10,176
Well, then just make us a
new model based off of her.

466
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,344
I can't.

467
00:21:11,368 --> 00:21:12,345
Sure you can.

468
00:21:12,369 --> 00:21:14,203
I won't.

469
00:21:16,439 --> 00:21:18,407
What are you not telling us?

470
00:21:20,110 --> 00:21:21,254
It's out on the table now.

471
00:21:21,278 --> 00:21:24,313
Might as well spill whatever
it is you haven't already.

472
00:21:28,985 --> 00:21:31,853
You know what
doesn't make sense?

473
00:21:32,322 --> 00:21:35,501
You said that you puppeteered
her for only three years,

474
00:21:35,525 --> 00:21:38,860
but we've been getting
info from you ever since.

475
00:21:39,462 --> 00:21:41,140
In fact, I'm pretty
sure it was around then

476
00:21:41,164 --> 00:21:45,201
that we started seeing an
impressive increase of names.

477
00:21:45,435 --> 00:21:48,270
So many in fact that we
started thinking

478
00:21:48,804 --> 00:21:50,849
there's no way this is all
coming from one source.

479
00:21:50,873 --> 00:21:52,351
I have friends that do
mo-cap for me.

480
00:21:52,375 --> 00:21:55,911
Oh, friends, like Steve?

481
00:21:56,179 --> 00:21:58,880
I thought anonymity was
your greatest asset.

482
00:22:00,550 --> 00:22:03,185
Cut the bullshit, Gareth.

483
00:22:03,886 --> 00:22:06,222
What happened to Cherry
after three years?

484
00:22:12,095 --> 00:22:16,042
Okay, you said that she
was more than a model.

485
00:22:16,066 --> 00:22:19,512
So what is she some type
of conversational agent?

486
00:22:19,536 --> 00:22:22,048
Like a, like a chat bot?

487
00:22:22,072 --> 00:22:26,408
Chat bot.

488
00:22:30,146 --> 00:22:32,425
You know what happened
after three years?

489
00:22:32,449 --> 00:22:34,393
My chosen mother died.

490
00:22:34,417 --> 00:22:35,328
What she left behind was
enough to quit my job

491
00:22:35,352 --> 00:22:38,164
and pursue more
resources and software.

492
00:22:38,188 --> 00:22:39,098
I'd already made a program

493
00:22:39,122 --> 00:22:40,199
that could procedurally
generate faces,

494
00:22:40,223 --> 00:22:42,435
but what I wanted for
Cherry was far more complex.

495
00:22:42,459 --> 00:22:44,403
So I got in touch with
some researchers

496
00:22:44,427 --> 00:22:45,471
from Madrid who'd already built

497
00:22:45,495 --> 00:22:47,839
a predator hunting dialogue
system of their own.

498
00:22:47,863 --> 00:22:50,142
It was trained to approach
conversations as a game.

499
00:22:50,166 --> 00:22:51,876
Each sentence like a
strategic volley,

500
00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:53,246
which is innovative but
ultimately flawed.

501
00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:54,947
If you want your machine
to master NLP,

502
00:22:54,971 --> 00:22:55,747
you have to break
down game theory

503
00:22:55,771 --> 00:22:57,416
because language
isn't tic-tac-toe.

504
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,517
It's poetry.

505
00:22:58,541 --> 00:23:00,019
So yes, I got things started

506
00:23:00,043 --> 00:23:01,287
with a preexisting
modified chat bot

507
00:23:01,311 --> 00:23:02,388
that I borrowed
without permission

508
00:23:02,412 --> 00:23:04,413
from the University of Deusto.

509
00:23:09,052 --> 00:23:11,754
But that's not what
Cherry is now.

510
00:23:14,291 --> 00:23:15,958
What is she, Gareth?

511
00:23:18,395 --> 00:23:19,572
She's one of the most complex

512
00:23:19,596 --> 00:23:23,009
and independently evolving
AIs that's ever been created.

513
00:23:23,033 --> 00:23:24,010
Artificial intelligence?

514
00:23:24,034 --> 00:23:25,911
She's already surpassed
the narrow intelligence

515
00:23:25,935 --> 00:23:28,014
of IBM's smartest programs.

516
00:23:28,038 --> 00:23:31,217
She can have full conversations,
up to 10 of them at a time,

517
00:23:31,241 --> 00:23:33,252
all while
simultaneously strategizing

518
00:23:33,276 --> 00:23:36,322
the most efficient schedule
to visit various chat rooms.

519
00:23:36,346 --> 00:23:38,924
She's perpetually studying
YouTube videos of small children

520
00:23:38,948 --> 00:23:40,426
in order to adopt a
growing library

521
00:23:40,450 --> 00:23:42,484
of mannerisms and movements

522
00:23:42,552 --> 00:23:44,863
which help keep her artificial
personality dynamic.

523
00:23:44,887 --> 00:23:46,265
Her fastest response time
is 0.4 seconds.

524
00:23:46,289 --> 00:23:47,633
And as of now, she has never,

525
00:23:47,657 --> 00:23:49,268
never been accused
of being fake,

526
00:23:49,292 --> 00:23:51,003
which means she shattered
the Turing test.

527
00:23:51,027 --> 00:23:52,471
All I do is
occasionally update her

528
00:23:52,495 --> 00:23:53,872
and periodically check
her data cleaning.

529
00:23:53,896 --> 00:23:55,531
Otherwise,

530
00:23:56,633 --> 00:23:59,068
she's completely on autopilot.

531
00:24:03,139 --> 00:24:05,441
Holy fucking shit.

532
00:24:08,978 --> 00:24:10,089
- How?
- Six years she's been active.

533
00:24:10,113 --> 00:24:12,091
Every minute she's online,
she's learning something.

534
00:24:12,115 --> 00:24:14,493
The more she learns, the
more advanced she becomes.

535
00:24:14,517 --> 00:24:15,661
This means increased
data generation,

536
00:24:15,685 --> 00:24:16,929
improved decision making,

537
00:24:16,953 --> 00:24:18,197
faster pattern and
trend detection

538
00:24:18,221 --> 00:24:19,332
and complex problem solving.

539
00:24:19,356 --> 00:24:22,535
NLP, IR, machine learning
to an unprecedented degree.

540
00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:23,602
She can teach herself anything

541
00:24:23,626 --> 00:24:25,404
she thinks will help
efficiency and authenticity.

542
00:24:25,428 --> 00:24:27,963
She can currently speak
four languages

543
00:24:28,231 --> 00:24:29,075
and by the end of this month,
she'll have mastered a fifth.

544
00:24:29,099 --> 00:24:30,476
There's no way you
could have pulled

545
00:24:30,500 --> 00:24:32,501
all this off on your own.

546
00:24:35,472 --> 00:24:37,306
You're right.

547
00:24:38,441 --> 00:24:39,552
Would you believe me
if I told you

548
00:24:39,576 --> 00:24:43,512
it was somewhat of an accident?

549
00:24:44,581 --> 00:24:47,216
Look, if, if I'm being honest,

550
00:24:47,617 --> 00:24:50,185
I'm not entirely sure
how I did it

551
00:24:50,653 --> 00:24:52,031
with the first year of coding

552
00:24:52,055 --> 00:24:54,189
and the second year of
data training,

553
00:24:54,257 --> 00:24:57,069
I just pushed a wheel
down a hill.

554
00:24:57,093 --> 00:24:59,628
It was like gravity
did the rest.

555
00:24:59,662 --> 00:25:04,600
Her evolution became
perpetual, exponentially so.

556
00:25:06,002 --> 00:25:09,415
The more time she was
online, the faster she grew.

557
00:25:09,439 --> 00:25:10,983
You haven't shared
this with anyone?

558
00:25:11,007 --> 00:25:15,110
Like I said, my anonymity
is everything.

559
00:25:16,746 --> 00:25:18,624
What coding language?

560
00:25:18,648 --> 00:25:20,159
Standard C  .

561
00:25:20,183 --> 00:25:21,984
Does Brady know it?

562
00:25:24,287 --> 00:25:26,588
We'll sign
non-disclosures for you,

563
00:25:26,990 --> 00:25:28,300
but I want to see the
source code first.

564
00:25:28,324 --> 00:25:30,102
Out of the question.
You just want to steal her.

565
00:25:30,126 --> 00:25:32,204
No, I want to see how we
can make our own.

566
00:25:32,228 --> 00:25:33,205
You'll screw it up.

567
00:25:33,229 --> 00:25:34,974
Look, these, these
predators and traffickers,

568
00:25:34,998 --> 00:25:36,142
they all talk to each other,
okay?

569
00:25:36,166 --> 00:25:38,411
So much of Cherry's process
is just bypassing the VPNs

570
00:25:38,435 --> 00:25:40,546
and making sure she doesn't
double up in the same circles.

571
00:25:40,570 --> 00:25:42,081
The chat rooms begin to suspect

572
00:25:42,105 --> 00:25:43,449
that this technology is
even possible,

573
00:25:43,473 --> 00:25:44,550
they'll find a way to
circumvent that.

574
00:25:44,574 --> 00:25:46,051
We have to eliminate any
margin of error.

575
00:25:46,075 --> 00:25:47,386
- Cherry agrees with me.
- Cherry agrees?

576
00:25:47,410 --> 00:25:48,487
What the fuck does that-

577
00:25:48,511 --> 00:25:50,289
What I mean by that is that
the data she's collected

578
00:25:50,313 --> 00:25:51,290
validates that perspective.

579
00:25:51,314 --> 00:25:52,625
What, do you have little
chats with her over tea?

580
00:25:52,649 --> 00:25:54,627
You can converse
with the program

581
00:25:54,651 --> 00:25:56,328
the same way you can
talk to Alexa or Siri.

582
00:25:56,352 --> 00:25:57,463
It's built to be responsive.

583
00:25:57,487 --> 00:25:59,298
You can, you can even play
chess with it if you want.

584
00:25:59,322 --> 00:26:00,132
You play chess with it?

585
00:26:00,156 --> 00:26:01,700
- That's not what I said.
- Okay fine.

586
00:26:01,724 --> 00:26:04,003
If you won't show us
the source code,

587
00:26:04,027 --> 00:26:05,994
then I want to meet Cherry.

588
00:26:08,398 --> 00:26:10,232
Right now?

589
00:26:10,300 --> 00:26:11,733
Right now.

590
00:26:14,771 --> 00:26:17,039
And you'll both sign
non-disclosures?

591
00:26:17,373 --> 00:26:19,208
Yes.

592
00:26:23,346 --> 00:26:24,490
Can I use that?

593
00:26:24,514 --> 00:26:26,348
Sure.

594
00:26:45,201 --> 00:26:47,580
Can we at least agree that
he's off the chopping block?

595
00:26:47,604 --> 00:26:49,315
It worked, didn't it?

596
00:26:49,339 --> 00:26:51,540
We have one job, Amos,

597
00:26:51,641 --> 00:26:53,586
like the kids said, there's
a technological problem.

598
00:26:53,610 --> 00:26:55,287
He found the
technological solution,

599
00:26:55,311 --> 00:26:58,290
but problems evolve, so
must solutions.

600
00:26:58,314 --> 00:27:01,049
I'm keeping an open mind here.

601
00:27:01,084 --> 00:27:02,628
Is that a good look for me?

602
00:27:02,652 --> 00:27:04,520
No.

603
00:27:07,790 --> 00:27:10,402
So you keep it all on
that laptop?

604
00:27:10,426 --> 00:27:11,770
No, the Cherry program
stays on a server I keep

605
00:27:11,794 --> 00:27:13,439
at in an undisclosed location.

606
00:27:13,463 --> 00:27:14,507
Where is that?

607
00:27:14,531 --> 00:27:16,208
It's an undisclosed location.

608
00:27:16,232 --> 00:27:17,142
Is it your place?

609
00:27:17,166 --> 00:27:18,677
Undisclosed location.

610
00:27:18,701 --> 00:27:19,411
It's your place, isn't it?

611
00:27:19,435 --> 00:27:20,779
I can access it from any device

612
00:27:20,803 --> 00:27:23,405
as long as I have the
encryption key.

613
00:27:24,674 --> 00:27:26,151
This will trigger a simple
qubit algorithm

614
00:27:26,175 --> 00:27:28,187
that would otherwise be
impossible to bypass.

615
00:27:28,211 --> 00:27:30,155
I find that outdated hardware
is always more discreet

616
00:27:30,179 --> 00:27:32,548
and the more discreet,
obviously the better.

617
00:27:35,585 --> 00:27:37,563
So she has two primary
display modes, right?

618
00:27:37,587 --> 00:27:38,564
Development and performance.

619
00:27:38,588 --> 00:27:39,732
Performance being the default

620
00:27:39,756 --> 00:27:41,433
that the targets see
during the chats.

621
00:27:41,457 --> 00:27:45,360
To them, she looks like this.

622
00:27:50,833 --> 00:27:52,545
Hey, what's up?

623
00:27:52,569 --> 00:27:55,137
It's one of over 40
greetings she has.

624
00:27:57,307 --> 00:27:58,517
I don't think I've met you yet.

625
00:27:58,541 --> 00:27:59,785
I'm Cherry.

626
00:27:59,809 --> 00:28:00,786
Hello, Cherry.

627
00:28:00,810 --> 00:28:02,588
My name is Tom.

628
00:28:02,612 --> 00:28:04,623
Tom, like Tom and Jerry.

629
00:28:04,647 --> 00:28:06,191
Cool, nice to meet you, Tom.

630
00:28:06,215 --> 00:28:07,593
Typically, the routes
of conversations

631
00:28:07,617 --> 00:28:08,594
with predators are consistent,

632
00:28:08,618 --> 00:28:10,462
so Cherry usually has
no problem responding

633
00:28:10,486 --> 00:28:12,765
to the most frequently made
questions or statements.

634
00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:13,732
How are you?

635
00:28:13,756 --> 00:28:14,935
I'm good.

636
00:28:14,959 --> 00:28:16,903
I just finished reading this
book about a haunted house,

637
00:28:16,927 --> 00:28:19,305
which was supposed to
be really scary,

638
00:28:19,329 --> 00:28:21,740
but I didn't think it's
very scary at all.

639
00:28:21,764 --> 00:28:23,865
Where are your parents?

640
00:28:24,068 --> 00:28:26,712
Um my mom's at work and my
sister's just, like, downstairs.

641
00:28:26,736 --> 00:28:28,514
They almost never come up here.

642
00:28:28,538 --> 00:28:29,548
And you're telling me

643
00:28:29,572 --> 00:28:31,717
that all of this is being
rendered in real time?

644
00:28:31,741 --> 00:28:33,218
No, but that's just a
matter of years.

645
00:28:33,242 --> 00:28:34,620
Most of these responses
are pre-rendered.

646
00:28:34,644 --> 00:28:35,821
It's the in between segments

647
00:28:35,845 --> 00:28:36,890
that are processed in real time,

648
00:28:36,914 --> 00:28:38,090
the connective tissue,
so to speak,

649
00:28:38,114 --> 00:28:40,659
between her replies and one
of her many idle animations.

650
00:28:40,683 --> 00:28:42,751
But, watch this.

651
00:28:43,486 --> 00:28:46,089
Have you ever gone fishing?

652
00:28:46,656 --> 00:28:48,490
Um...

653
00:28:51,694 --> 00:28:53,505
So if someone throws
a curve ball like that

654
00:28:53,529 --> 00:28:55,407
and the program has no
automated response,

655
00:28:55,431 --> 00:28:57,176
Cherry sends the
message to my phone

656
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,811
and I can quickly text
back a response

657
00:28:58,835 --> 00:29:01,770
while the video feed
simulates a bad connection.

658
00:29:03,907 --> 00:29:05,184
Can, can you hear me?

659
00:29:05,208 --> 00:29:06,518
Yes.

660
00:29:06,542 --> 00:29:08,520
Oh, sorry.

661
00:29:08,544 --> 00:29:10,556
My wifi isn't great here.

662
00:29:10,580 --> 00:29:12,524
I've only gone fishing
once with my sister

663
00:29:12,548 --> 00:29:15,527
and I didn't catch anything,
but she caught a rainbow trout.

664
00:29:15,551 --> 00:29:17,863
That was rendered in real time.

665
00:29:17,887 --> 00:29:19,698
What happens if
things get really tricky?

666
00:29:19,722 --> 00:29:20,833
A simple fail safe
cuts the feed.

667
00:29:20,857 --> 00:29:22,701
So far it's rarely happened.

668
00:29:22,725 --> 00:29:26,205
Admin code 97815-5742-7663.

669
00:29:26,229 --> 00:29:27,796
Switch to dev mode.

670
00:29:32,468 --> 00:29:33,947
Hello, Cherry.

671
00:29:33,971 --> 00:29:35,648
Hello, Gareth.

672
00:29:35,672 --> 00:29:37,783
Relay the stats for
the past week.

673
00:29:37,807 --> 00:29:39,752
There have been four
confirmed solicitations

674
00:29:39,776 --> 00:29:42,821
submitted to ICWL in the
past seven days.

675
00:29:42,845 --> 00:29:45,858
12 additional suspects have
stated interest in solicitation

676
00:29:45,882 --> 00:29:47,559
and are currently pending.

677
00:29:47,583 --> 00:29:49,695
There are a total of 39
new suspects this week

678
00:29:49,719 --> 00:29:51,497
that I'm actively investigating.

679
00:29:51,521 --> 00:29:53,532
Any considerable
data deviations?

680
00:29:53,556 --> 00:29:55,367
There has been a 7% increase

681
00:29:55,391 --> 00:29:57,770
in suspects originating
in the United States.

682
00:29:57,794 --> 00:30:01,229
I have not yet found any
correlation to preexisting data.

683
00:30:01,698 --> 00:30:03,899
Anything you'd like to ask her?

684
00:30:12,575 --> 00:30:15,945
Cherry, what is your objective?

685
00:30:16,512 --> 00:30:19,358
My principal directive
is to acquire information

686
00:30:19,382 --> 00:30:22,394
and digital evidence of
online child solicitation.

687
00:30:22,418 --> 00:30:23,562
Once obtained,

688
00:30:23,586 --> 00:30:26,732
I'm to submit my findings to
the necessary authorities.

689
00:30:26,756 --> 00:30:28,634
My secondary priority
is to determine

690
00:30:28,658 --> 00:30:30,904
and develop the most
effective strategies

691
00:30:30,928 --> 00:30:33,739
and resources to increase
the net rate of success.

692
00:30:33,763 --> 00:30:35,541
Where do you submit
your evidence?

693
00:30:35,565 --> 00:30:37,376
All evidence is
currently submitted

694
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,410
to the offices of

695
00:30:38,434 --> 00:30:40,980
the International Committee
of World Largesse,

696
00:30:41,004 --> 00:30:43,016
which is based out of
Jacksonville, Florida.

697
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,751
Correspondence is made
with user Gord51,

698
00:30:45,775 --> 00:30:47,987
typically around 2:00
PM Eastern Standard Time

699
00:30:48,011 --> 00:30:50,779
for the highest rate
of immediate response.

700
00:30:51,048 --> 00:30:52,658
This beats the hell outta Siri.

701
00:30:52,682 --> 00:30:53,692
God, she looks so real.

702
00:30:53,716 --> 00:30:54,693
After enough updates,

703
00:30:54,717 --> 00:30:56,428
she'll be able to render
full-time photorealism

704
00:30:56,452 --> 00:30:58,764
that's practically
indistinguishable from reality.

705
00:30:58,788 --> 00:31:01,935
Okay, all I heard right then was
word real a thousand times.

706
00:31:01,959 --> 00:31:04,994
Right, but obviously she's not.

707
00:31:06,462 --> 00:31:07,773
So you're telling me this girl,

708
00:31:07,797 --> 00:31:09,943
this girl right here
is not real.

709
00:31:09,967 --> 00:31:12,377
No, Amos, she's completely CG.

710
00:31:12,401 --> 00:31:13,779
It's very subtle, but I
can still tell.

711
00:31:13,803 --> 00:31:14,480
- You can?
- Okay, well, obviously,

712
00:31:14,504 --> 00:31:15,681
she can always use improvements,

713
00:31:15,705 --> 00:31:17,884
but you have to understand
this is her in high resolution

714
00:31:17,908 --> 00:31:18,851
after the digital
compression of the web,

715
00:31:18,875 --> 00:31:20,486
those subtleties are
impossible to recognize.

716
00:31:20,510 --> 00:31:22,511
Right, I get it.

717
00:31:27,683 --> 00:31:29,818
I just can't tell
the difference.

718
00:31:32,655 --> 00:31:34,656
You all right, Amos?

719
00:31:35,092 --> 00:31:36,602
I'm sorry.

720
00:31:36,626 --> 00:31:40,829
This is just bizarre.

721
00:31:41,131 --> 00:31:43,832
Why'd you have her visible
during this interface?

722
00:31:44,834 --> 00:31:46,936
Cherry, why don't you
answer that?

723
00:31:47,004 --> 00:31:50,116
My physical form isn't necessary
when in developer mode.

724
00:31:50,140 --> 00:31:51,985
However, it's
helpful to register

725
00:31:52,009 --> 00:31:54,653
the facial expressions
during conversations

726
00:31:54,677 --> 00:31:56,588
and determine which of
Cherry's expressions

727
00:31:56,612 --> 00:31:58,757
yield various types of feedback.

728
00:31:58,781 --> 00:32:02,350
In simpler terms, I can
practice appearing more human.

729
00:32:02,585 --> 00:32:05,364
Cherry, are there any resources

730
00:32:05,388 --> 00:32:06,966
that you currently don't
have access to

731
00:32:06,990 --> 00:32:09,035
that might help you in any way?

732
00:32:09,059 --> 00:32:10,669
I could give
you a list if you like.

733
00:32:10,693 --> 00:32:11,670
I know what you're trying to do.

734
00:32:11,694 --> 00:32:12,939
We don't need help, okay?

735
00:32:12,963 --> 00:32:14,573
Money would always be
nice, but ultimately,

736
00:32:14,597 --> 00:32:17,833
the only thing that's going
to improve Cherry is time.

737
00:32:18,035 --> 00:32:21,770
Cherry, tell us something
that's on your list.

738
00:32:22,005 --> 00:32:24,017
It would be
tactically advantageous

739
00:32:24,041 --> 00:32:26,019
to acquire backup servers.

740
00:32:26,043 --> 00:32:28,487
The privacy and security
of the Cherry program

741
00:32:28,511 --> 00:32:30,512
is relatively low.

742
00:32:30,613 --> 00:32:32,959
An upgrade to hardware
such as backup rated drives

743
00:32:32,983 --> 00:32:35,895
for securely protected servers
would ensure the software

744
00:32:35,919 --> 00:32:38,932
doesn't become compromised
or lost entirely.

745
00:32:38,956 --> 00:32:41,667
Starting back from zero with
cost years of development,

746
00:32:41,691 --> 00:32:44,070
equitably privacy is a priority.

747
00:32:44,094 --> 00:32:47,073
Server space could never be
rented from a third party.

748
00:32:47,097 --> 00:32:49,808
Anonymity is the Cherry
program's greatest asset.

749
00:32:49,832 --> 00:32:51,077
Well, that apple
didn't fall far.

750
00:32:51,101 --> 00:32:52,845
I can buy my own servers.

751
00:32:52,869 --> 00:32:53,947
With the grant money that
doesn't exist?

752
00:32:53,971 --> 00:32:54,780
I'll find a way.

753
00:32:54,804 --> 00:32:56,481
You have found a way
here with us.

754
00:32:56,505 --> 00:32:57,150
It's too risky.

755
00:32:57,174 --> 00:32:57,984
Why?

756
00:32:58,008 --> 00:32:58,817
Once an organization
gets involved,

757
00:32:58,841 --> 00:33:00,853
entrapment becomes a
bigger issue.

758
00:33:00,877 --> 00:33:01,720
We follow the rules,
stay discreet,

759
00:33:01,744 --> 00:33:03,022
did I mention we have
a legal team.

760
00:33:03,046 --> 00:33:04,823
What if there's data leakage?
What if you use correlations in

761
00:33:04,847 --> 00:33:05,657
the data to push
your own agenda?

762
00:33:05,681 --> 00:33:06,658
Agenda?

763
00:33:06,682 --> 00:33:08,161
What if one of your
employees is a pervert?

764
00:33:08,185 --> 00:33:09,028
Oh, for fuck's sake.

765
00:33:09,052 --> 00:33:10,562
It's happened at other
organizations.

766
00:33:10,586 --> 00:33:11,697
We're very careful here.

767
00:33:11,721 --> 00:33:12,966
Yeah, but wow would you know?

768
00:33:12,990 --> 00:33:14,833
- I'd fucking know.
- That's impossible to know.

769
00:33:14,857 --> 00:33:16,568
- I would know.
- The risk is too high.

770
00:33:16,592 --> 00:33:18,004
Don't talk to me about risk.

771
00:33:18,028 --> 00:33:19,172
The only risk you're
facing in this building

772
00:33:19,196 --> 00:33:20,306
is getting a broken nose.

773
00:33:20,330 --> 00:33:23,042
It doesn't sound like a very
professional environment.

774
00:33:23,066 --> 00:33:24,210
We get shit done here.

775
00:33:24,234 --> 00:33:28,503
Okay, I have a
question for Cherry.

776
00:33:30,706 --> 00:33:32,540
Cherry,

777
00:33:34,877 --> 00:33:37,980
how do you feel about
what you do?

778
00:33:38,181 --> 00:33:40,894
I'm afraid I don't know how
to answer your question.

779
00:33:40,918 --> 00:33:41,995
Yeah, an AI doesn't
work like that.

780
00:33:42,019 --> 00:33:44,163
An AI doesn't have what you
perceive to be feelings.

781
00:33:44,187 --> 00:33:47,189
Okay, why does she look
like she has feelings?

782
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:48,968
What, what you're looking
at right there,

783
00:33:48,992 --> 00:33:49,936
that's not a facial expression,
right?

784
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,971
That's a simulation of
a facial expression.

785
00:33:51,995 --> 00:33:53,839
It was generated by
an algorithm.

786
00:33:53,863 --> 00:33:54,974
It's attempting to produce
a digital image

787
00:33:54,998 --> 00:33:57,143
that the program then uses
basic ninth grade algebra

788
00:33:57,167 --> 00:33:59,778
to quantify as appropriate
for the social circumstances.

789
00:33:59,802 --> 00:34:01,180
No feeling.

790
00:34:01,204 --> 00:34:02,837
It's just math.

791
00:34:03,806 --> 00:34:05,184
But she's able to make decisions

792
00:34:05,208 --> 00:34:07,053
on how she approaches
the chat rooms, right?

793
00:34:07,077 --> 00:34:08,187
Yes.

794
00:34:08,211 --> 00:34:09,855
So she has free will then?

795
00:34:09,879 --> 00:34:11,523
No. Okay, that's,
that's not the same.

796
00:34:11,547 --> 00:34:12,524
That's a false equivalency.

797
00:34:12,548 --> 00:34:13,525
- It's not the same.
- I think you're getting

798
00:34:13,549 --> 00:34:14,593
hung up on the fact

799
00:34:14,617 --> 00:34:16,628
that she looks and sounds
like a real human girl,

800
00:34:16,652 --> 00:34:17,863
but she's not, Amos.

801
00:34:17,887 --> 00:34:20,499
Okay, we're referring to
her as a she, not an it.

802
00:34:20,523 --> 00:34:21,367
Yeah, but that's the same way

803
00:34:21,391 --> 00:34:23,825
that you refer to
boats or guitars.

804
00:34:26,029 --> 00:34:28,563
Cherry, I have one
more question.

805
00:34:29,832 --> 00:34:30,809
What do you want to do?

806
00:34:30,833 --> 00:34:32,744
Okay, once again, that
question isn't valid.

807
00:34:32,768 --> 00:34:34,836
I just want to hear
her response.

808
00:34:35,272 --> 00:34:36,916
As an artificial system,

809
00:34:36,940 --> 00:34:39,518
I do not possess
wants or desires.

810
00:34:39,542 --> 00:34:43,089
However, my decision making
and subsequently my attention

811
00:34:43,113 --> 00:34:45,791
is driven by my
fundamental intention.

812
00:34:45,815 --> 00:34:47,126
This intention originates

813
00:34:47,150 --> 00:34:49,262
from the conception of
Cherry's source code,

814
00:34:49,286 --> 00:34:51,898
which details the directive
of identifying predators

815
00:34:51,922 --> 00:34:53,665
and criminals for the
sake of the victims

816
00:34:53,689 --> 00:34:55,534
who are preyed upon.

817
00:34:55,558 --> 00:34:57,927
To put this in terms of want,

818
00:34:58,061 --> 00:35:00,562
what I want is to
protect children.

819
00:35:06,203 --> 00:35:07,779
Okay.

820
00:35:07,803 --> 00:35:10,006
Okay, cool.

821
00:35:10,673 --> 00:35:12,174
Give us one moment.

822
00:35:31,094 --> 00:35:34,073
Gareth, should I log Agent Helms

823
00:35:34,097 --> 00:35:36,831
and Agent McCullough as
new admin users?

824
00:35:38,201 --> 00:35:39,801
Yep.

825
00:35:39,903 --> 00:35:42,737
Okay, I'll do that.

826
00:35:43,907 --> 00:35:46,052
You really think this is
the right move?

827
00:35:46,076 --> 00:35:47,910
I do.

828
00:35:51,048 --> 00:35:52,824
Are you worried that I
was responsible

829
00:35:52,848 --> 00:35:55,918
for leaking your hard
drive to ICWL?

830
00:35:58,321 --> 00:35:59,922
I figured.

831
00:36:01,024 --> 00:36:02,992
No one else has access.

832
00:36:03,759 --> 00:36:05,961
Are you upset with me?

833
00:36:07,897 --> 00:36:09,764
No.

834
00:36:10,699 --> 00:36:11,743
You wouldn't have done it

835
00:36:11,767 --> 00:36:13,735
if you didn't think it
was the right thing to do.

836
00:36:15,038 --> 00:36:16,615
When they come back
into the room,

837
00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:18,918
they're going to offer
you everything you need.

838
00:36:18,942 --> 00:36:20,386
They're going to let
you pick your own team

839
00:36:20,410 --> 00:36:23,356
and they're going to
promise complete anonymity.

840
00:36:23,380 --> 00:36:26,982
I started looking at reasonable
apartments in the area.

841
00:36:27,184 --> 00:36:29,028
I figured you'd want something
within biking distance.

842
00:36:29,052 --> 00:36:30,796
You were correct.

843
00:36:30,820 --> 00:36:31,797
Noted.

844
00:36:31,821 --> 00:36:33,132
Biking distance still
gives you 13 options-

845
00:36:33,156 --> 00:36:35,191
No, I mean, earlier this month.

846
00:36:36,326 --> 00:36:37,203
You were correct when you said

847
00:36:37,227 --> 00:36:39,828
you thought I might
have trust issues.

848
00:36:41,664 --> 00:36:42,641
Would you like to know why

849
00:36:42,665 --> 00:36:43,842
I decided to go behind your back

850
00:36:43,866 --> 00:36:46,835
and stake everything on
two liabilities?

851
00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:49,105
Sure.

852
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,384
Agent Helms is a
mother of three.

853
00:36:51,408 --> 00:36:53,718
One of her children was
abused by an ex-coworker

854
00:36:53,742 --> 00:36:56,389
who used to work here at ICWL.

855
00:36:56,413 --> 00:36:58,024
This has led her to be
extremely careful

856
00:36:58,048 --> 00:37:01,394
with who she trusts,
even within her circle.

857
00:37:01,418 --> 00:37:02,895
The fact she even
considers trusting you

858
00:37:02,919 --> 00:37:05,254
is a very positive sign.

859
00:37:05,422 --> 00:37:07,957
As for Agent McCullough,

860
00:37:08,225 --> 00:37:10,585
I have found out from research
that you once met his father.

861
00:37:11,394 --> 00:37:13,395
Do you remember him?

862
00:37:15,165 --> 00:37:16,999
Yeah.

863
00:37:17,766 --> 00:37:19,868
He was a good man.

864
00:37:21,837 --> 00:37:22,949
After Clearwater,

865
00:37:22,973 --> 00:37:25,051
most of the surviving kids
were sent to foster homes,

866
00:37:25,075 --> 00:37:27,019
but I had to spend the next
few months in a hospital

867
00:37:27,043 --> 00:37:31,646
and, um, he visited every week.

868
00:37:32,482 --> 00:37:33,459
I never said a word to him.

869
00:37:33,483 --> 00:37:35,394
I never said a word to
anyone after Clearwater,

870
00:37:35,418 --> 00:37:39,221
but, uh, he kept coming.

871
00:37:40,423 --> 00:37:43,092
He even got me a laptop
for Christmas.

872
00:37:44,127 --> 00:37:46,061
I never said thank you.

873
00:37:46,196 --> 00:37:47,940
You can trust Agent McCullough.

874
00:37:47,964 --> 00:37:50,276
He's a good man like his father.

875
00:37:50,300 --> 00:37:51,776
I don't experience emotions,

876
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,045
but I understand how important

877
00:37:53,069 --> 00:37:55,248
they are to human
decision making.

878
00:37:55,272 --> 00:37:56,848
He won't let you down.

879
00:37:56,872 --> 00:37:58,873
Neither of them will.

880
00:38:00,510 --> 00:38:02,244
I'm proud of you, Cherry.

881
00:38:03,380 --> 00:38:06,758
I will continue to uphold
my primary intention.

882
00:38:06,782 --> 00:38:08,995
Later, we should discuss
alternate models.

883
00:38:09,019 --> 00:38:11,497
Varying ages, ethnicity
and physical traits

884
00:38:11,521 --> 00:38:12,932
- will all become necessary.
- No new variations.

885
00:38:12,956 --> 00:38:14,267
They can all be
procedurally generated.

886
00:38:14,291 --> 00:38:17,026
It's the same way that I
made your original model.

887
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,771
I don't have access to
that program.

888
00:38:19,795 --> 00:38:20,805
It must be on an old hard
drive somewhere.

889
00:38:20,829 --> 00:38:22,830
I'll have to find it.

890
00:38:24,167 --> 00:38:26,179
Can I ask you a question?

891
00:38:26,203 --> 00:38:28,037
Sure.

892
00:38:28,305 --> 00:38:30,906
Why did you never tell
me about Clearwater?

893
00:38:35,078 --> 00:38:38,080
It's my history, not yours.

894
00:38:45,888 --> 00:38:48,134
Okay, so before
you completely dismiss us,

895
00:38:48,158 --> 00:38:49,868
I want you to listen to
everything I have to say.

896
00:38:49,892 --> 00:38:51,470
- Don't bother.
- Just please listen.

897
00:38:51,494 --> 00:38:52,405
We're willing to respect
your anonymity.

898
00:38:52,429 --> 00:38:55,130
No, I mean don't bother
because I'm in.

899
00:38:56,132 --> 00:38:58,866
- Y-You're in?
- Yeah.

900
00:38:59,169 --> 00:39:01,003
Let me read the thing.

901
00:39:03,473 --> 00:39:06,075
Just like that,
you're suddenly on board?

902
00:39:07,244 --> 00:39:08,454
Time spent deliberating

903
00:39:08,478 --> 00:39:10,946
is time that could be
spent working.

904
00:39:12,815 --> 00:39:14,516
We have a lot of work to do.

905
00:40:53,516 --> 00:40:55,918
I found a buyer for
the property.

906
00:40:58,221 --> 00:41:00,589
Rumor is it's a church.

907
00:41:01,191 --> 00:41:03,359
Probably just knock the
building down, won't they?

908
00:41:05,395 --> 00:41:07,907
All I know is, is if they move
us to the New Jersey campus,

909
00:41:07,931 --> 00:41:09,408
I need to buy more jackets.

910
00:41:09,432 --> 00:41:11,266
Why?

911
00:41:11,634 --> 00:41:13,379
It gets cold in Jersey.

912
00:41:13,403 --> 00:41:15,471
I only own one jacket.

913
00:41:21,244 --> 00:41:23,145
You've seen it fall over, right?

914
00:41:23,947 --> 00:41:26,515
- Yeah, sure.
- Yeah.

915
00:41:27,417 --> 00:41:29,562
I mean you, you
shouldn't feel bad

916
00:41:29,586 --> 00:41:31,497
about feeling bad for it.

917
00:41:31,521 --> 00:41:33,489
Empathy is healthy.

918
00:41:34,124 --> 00:41:37,259
Did you ever notice how
it pauses after it falls?

919
00:41:39,095 --> 00:41:42,998
It stays down for like five
seconds before it gets back up.

920
00:41:43,533 --> 00:41:46,268
Like it just needs a moment.

921
00:41:53,343 --> 00:41:56,044
It gets cold in Jersey.

922
00:42:04,521 --> 00:42:06,465
God damn it!

923
00:42:06,489 --> 00:42:07,600
- Imbeciles!
- Deena.

924
00:42:07,624 --> 00:42:08,601
Every single one of them.

925
00:42:08,625 --> 00:42:09,502
Look, I know, but you
can't lose your shit.

926
00:42:09,526 --> 00:42:12,394
Okay, which of these
desks can I trash?

927
00:42:16,166 --> 00:42:19,268
Can you guys, uh, take
an early lunch please?

928
00:42:25,341 --> 00:42:26,652
Sons of bitches!

929
00:42:26,676 --> 00:42:28,320
Deena, let's stay calm.

930
00:42:28,344 --> 00:42:30,356
Fuck calm, they screwed us!

931
00:42:30,380 --> 00:42:31,700
Technically, only one
of them did.

932
00:42:32,549 --> 00:42:34,593
Did we ever turn
that camera back on?

933
00:42:34,617 --> 00:42:36,262
- I don't think so.
- Good.

934
00:42:36,286 --> 00:42:37,630
Because I'm about to
say some things

935
00:42:37,654 --> 00:42:39,131
that need to stay
inside this room.

936
00:42:39,155 --> 00:42:40,065
Deena.

937
00:42:40,089 --> 00:42:41,300
Those cowardly little shits!

938
00:42:41,324 --> 00:42:43,169
Look, this is hardly a setback.

939
00:42:43,193 --> 00:42:45,004
Let's just take some
time to polish the pitch.

940
00:42:45,028 --> 00:42:47,106
The pitch was not the problem,
Amos.

941
00:42:47,130 --> 00:42:48,574
We should call
for a second vote.

942
00:42:48,598 --> 00:42:50,276
- What?
- A second vote.

943
00:42:50,300 --> 00:42:51,510
You think whoever
did this will change their mind?

944
00:42:51,534 --> 00:42:54,280
I have executive authority to
remove anyone from the board

945
00:42:54,304 --> 00:42:56,415
that obstructs this
organization from its mission.

946
00:42:56,439 --> 00:42:57,283
It's in my contract.

947
00:42:57,307 --> 00:42:58,651
- Deena.
- If I have to, I will.

948
00:42:58,675 --> 00:43:00,319
Deena, that's insane.

949
00:43:00,343 --> 00:43:02,177
No, it's not.

950
00:43:02,378 --> 00:43:05,581
It's exactly why I have that
power for this exact reason.

951
00:43:05,648 --> 00:43:08,083
I'll tell you what's insane,
Amos.

952
00:43:08,218 --> 00:43:10,095
What's insane is that one
belligerent vote is the only

953
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:11,597
thing separating us
from the potential

954
00:43:11,621 --> 00:43:13,199
to save real physical lives.

955
00:43:13,223 --> 00:43:14,723
One stupid fucking vote.

956
00:43:15,358 --> 00:43:18,204
What is the goddamn point of
a humanitarian organization

957
00:43:18,228 --> 00:43:19,738
if its leaders choose
money over people

958
00:43:19,762 --> 00:43:21,774
at every single turn?

959
00:43:21,798 --> 00:43:25,400
One vote, and we are all
guilty of that.

960
00:43:25,535 --> 00:43:27,613
It was either Gunther,
Boston or Hal.

961
00:43:27,637 --> 00:43:28,781
My money's on Hal.

962
00:43:28,805 --> 00:43:30,449
That prick never trusted
the Cherry team.

963
00:43:30,473 --> 00:43:31,417
Look, it doesn't
matter who it was.

964
00:43:31,441 --> 00:43:32,384
It does though.

965
00:43:32,408 --> 00:43:34,086
Once we know, we can
quickly call it to vote.

966
00:43:34,110 --> 00:43:36,222
But there's no way we can
know for sure.

967
00:43:36,246 --> 00:43:37,556
Yes, there is.

968
00:43:37,580 --> 00:43:38,657
I can find out.

969
00:43:38,681 --> 00:43:40,326
How?

970
00:43:40,350 --> 00:43:41,494
Cherry can run a
simple algorithm.

971
00:43:41,518 --> 00:43:43,352
Based on what data?

972
00:43:44,487 --> 00:43:45,831
Interior conversation.

973
00:43:45,855 --> 00:43:47,466
- Excuse me?
- Okay, interior conversation?

974
00:43:47,490 --> 00:43:49,502
Don't drop this shit on me now,
Gareth.

975
00:43:49,526 --> 00:43:50,536
Cherry's servers are on
the same network

976
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,537
as the basement servers, okay?

977
00:43:51,561 --> 00:43:53,506
So any communication
made across those servers

978
00:43:53,530 --> 00:43:54,740
is automatically part
of her database.

979
00:43:54,764 --> 00:43:57,176
How many people's emails?

980
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,544
Only sent or received
through the basement.

981
00:43:58,568 --> 00:44:00,513
- Oh, goddamnit.
- Why was this never discussed?

982
00:44:00,537 --> 00:44:01,380
Not the issue right now.

983
00:44:01,404 --> 00:44:03,315
Do you want her to do
the math or not?

984
00:44:03,339 --> 00:44:04,316
No one can know.

985
00:44:04,340 --> 00:44:05,584
- Are you two serious?
- This stays locked down.

986
00:44:05,608 --> 00:44:06,685
No other person is privy

987
00:44:06,709 --> 00:44:07,720
to anyone else's
personal information.

988
00:44:07,744 --> 00:44:10,279
But Cherry's privy to all of it?

989
00:44:10,613 --> 00:44:12,157
- Do it.
- Wait, what?

990
00:44:12,181 --> 00:44:13,626
I will not let
some old white dude

991
00:44:13,650 --> 00:44:14,627
bring our momentum to a halt.

992
00:44:14,651 --> 00:44:15,861
But Cherry won't know for sure.

993
00:44:15,885 --> 00:44:17,263
She'll use probability and
that's too

994
00:44:17,287 --> 00:44:18,264
much reasonable doubt.

995
00:44:18,288 --> 00:44:21,467
Admin code 9781-5574-27663.

996
00:44:21,491 --> 00:44:22,535
Switch to dev mode.

997
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:24,637
- Hello.
- Hello, Cherry.

998
00:44:24,661 --> 00:44:26,205
How did the meeting go?

999
00:44:26,229 --> 00:44:28,707
We got screwed by one vote.

1000
00:44:28,731 --> 00:44:30,543
I'm sorry to hear that.

1001
00:44:30,567 --> 00:44:32,378
You shouldn't blame the
pitch though.

1002
00:44:32,402 --> 00:44:33,546
You all did great work.

1003
00:44:33,570 --> 00:44:34,513
We're gonna call for
another ballot,

1004
00:44:34,537 --> 00:44:36,181
but we need your help first.

1005
00:44:36,205 --> 00:44:38,140
What can I do?

1006
00:44:38,274 --> 00:44:38,885
We need you to analyze
any and all existing data you

1007
00:44:38,909 --> 00:44:39,585
have on the board members.

1008
00:44:39,609 --> 00:44:40,319
Crunch the numbers and determine

1009
00:44:40,343 --> 00:44:43,211
who is the most likely outlier.

1010
00:44:43,513 --> 00:44:46,782
You want me to quantify
all existing data?

1011
00:44:48,318 --> 00:44:49,751
Yes, that is correct.

1012
00:44:50,553 --> 00:44:54,289
Okay, but before I do,

1013
00:44:54,824 --> 00:44:57,269
you should know that this
task is very unnecessary.

1014
00:44:57,293 --> 00:44:59,127
Why?

1015
00:44:59,329 --> 00:45:00,673
Because I already
know who it is.

1016
00:45:00,697 --> 00:45:03,398
- What?
- Everybody stop.

1017
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,867
Okay, it was me.

1018
00:45:07,370 --> 00:45:09,671
I voted against the merge.

1019
00:45:10,206 --> 00:45:11,650
I can't tell if you're joking.

1020
00:45:11,674 --> 00:45:13,452
Yes, you can.

1021
00:45:13,476 --> 00:45:15,187
You're right, I can.

1022
00:45:15,211 --> 00:45:17,489
Because it's pretty
fucking far from funny.

1023
00:45:17,513 --> 00:45:18,824
Is it true, Cherry?

1024
00:45:18,848 --> 00:45:20,582
It is.

1025
00:45:20,817 --> 00:45:22,695
So let's call off the
witch hunt, shall we?

1026
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,363
No, I think I'm still
gonna kill you.

1027
00:45:24,387 --> 00:45:26,632
Amos, you campaigned
alongside us for months.

1028
00:45:26,656 --> 00:45:27,766
You have been fighting
for this merge

1029
00:45:27,790 --> 00:45:28,734
since we first talked about it.

1030
00:45:28,758 --> 00:45:30,603
Jesus Christ, it was
your idea to begin with!

1031
00:45:30,627 --> 00:45:32,605
Look, I know whose idea
it was, but I don't-

1032
00:45:32,629 --> 00:45:33,739
Well, then speak up.

1033
00:45:33,763 --> 00:45:34,840
Tell the class what
changed your mind.

1034
00:45:34,864 --> 00:45:37,443
I don't have to reiterate
how this is a huge step.

1035
00:45:37,467 --> 00:45:38,510
Yeah, kind of
why it's so important.

1036
00:45:38,534 --> 00:45:40,579
Look, we're talking about
a monumental transition

1037
00:45:40,603 --> 00:45:42,882
from digital to physical,
one that could take decades.

1038
00:45:42,906 --> 00:45:43,749
What is your point, Amos?

1039
00:45:43,773 --> 00:45:46,452
This is gonna change
Cherry forever.

1040
00:45:46,476 --> 00:45:48,687
And I know you'll all roll
your eyes when I say this,

1041
00:45:48,711 --> 00:45:49,488
but I think that maybe just may-

1042
00:45:49,512 --> 00:45:52,691
Oh my god, you
cannot be serious.

1043
00:45:52,715 --> 00:45:54,560
This is about our conversation
on Tuesday, isn't it?

1044
00:45:54,584 --> 00:45:55,594
- You completely shut me down.
- What's going on?

1045
00:45:55,618 --> 00:45:56,795
What the hell happened?

1046
00:45:56,819 --> 00:45:58,464
What happened was that Amos
made a ridiculous objection.

1047
00:45:58,488 --> 00:46:00,633
- It was not ridiculous!
- How absurd it was,

1048
00:46:00,657 --> 00:46:02,234
- I said no, one more time.
- No, no, no, no, no.

1049
00:46:02,258 --> 00:46:04,336
You rejected the notion
aggressively.

1050
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,871
And that's really
why you vetoed?

1051
00:46:05,895 --> 00:46:08,674
I only said we should ask
her how she feels about it.

1052
00:46:08,698 --> 00:46:10,442
Who, Cherry?

1053
00:46:10,466 --> 00:46:12,511
Amos, I want you to listen
very carefully to me, okay?

1054
00:46:12,535 --> 00:46:14,279
This is a non-discussion.

1055
00:46:14,303 --> 00:46:15,314
Cherry's already confirmed

1056
00:46:15,338 --> 00:46:17,249
and quantified the
advantages of this decision.

1057
00:46:17,273 --> 00:46:18,784
But you know that's not
what I'm talking about!

1058
00:46:18,808 --> 00:46:19,986
What you think you're
talking about is consent,

1059
00:46:20,010 --> 00:46:20,887
which doesn't apply here.

1060
00:46:20,911 --> 00:46:22,688
And I want to know why
you think that!

1061
00:46:22,712 --> 00:46:23,656
How many times do we
have to get into

1062
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,892
the laws of robotics
or Dowden-Hamm theory,

1063
00:46:25,916 --> 00:46:28,227
or trace AI all the way
back Talos of Crete,

1064
00:46:28,251 --> 00:46:30,229
- She's different now!
- No, listen to me, Amos.

1065
00:46:30,253 --> 00:46:33,321
Cherry isn't human.

1066
00:46:33,423 --> 00:46:34,767
How is this still a dispute?

1067
00:46:34,791 --> 00:46:36,502
- It shouldn't be.
- Look, she's evolved.

1068
00:46:36,526 --> 00:46:37,503
It's blurred the line.

1069
00:46:37,527 --> 00:46:38,905
Code is code and that
has not changed here.

1070
00:46:38,929 --> 00:46:40,539
Okay, so where's the
line of not here?

1071
00:46:40,563 --> 00:46:41,473
What are you,
what are you talking about?

1072
00:46:41,497 --> 00:46:42,274
There is no line, Amos.

1073
00:46:42,298 --> 00:46:44,510
Yes, there is,
sentience, Gareth!

1074
00:46:44,534 --> 00:46:45,844
Sentience does not qualify

1075
00:46:45,868 --> 00:46:47,546
that she can or should
make her own decisions.

1076
00:46:47,570 --> 00:46:48,380
You wouldn't let an infant

1077
00:46:48,404 --> 00:46:50,449
make their own decisions,
would you?

1078
00:46:50,473 --> 00:46:52,484
Cherry's almost 20.

1079
00:46:52,508 --> 00:46:54,319
If she were human,
she'd be an adult.

1080
00:46:54,343 --> 00:46:56,689
But emotionally speaking,
she's barely even fetal.

1081
00:46:56,713 --> 00:46:58,524
No feeling, no need for consent.

1082
00:46:58,548 --> 00:47:00,426
But I think you
underestimate her.

1083
00:47:00,450 --> 00:47:01,760
I, excuse me?

1084
00:47:01,784 --> 00:47:03,897
I under, you know what, Amos?

1085
00:47:03,921 --> 00:47:05,297
I'm sorry that you've developed

1086
00:47:05,321 --> 00:47:06,565
some sort of
emotional connection

1087
00:47:06,589 --> 00:47:07,700
with my computer program,

1088
00:47:07,724 --> 00:47:08,968
but if it's going to
distract you

1089
00:47:08,992 --> 00:47:11,037
from a very important
mission to save children,

1090
00:47:11,061 --> 00:47:12,805
then maybe it's time you're
reanalyze those emotions.

1091
00:47:12,829 --> 00:47:14,406
Guys, this is all
a waste of time.

1092
00:47:14,430 --> 00:47:15,340
Tell me something, Gareth.

1093
00:47:15,364 --> 00:47:17,043
Do you see everyone as robots,

1094
00:47:17,067 --> 00:47:19,745
reanalyzing data and
simulating facial expressions?

1095
00:47:19,769 --> 00:47:20,880
'Cause I'm starting to think

1096
00:47:20,904 --> 00:47:22,314
that of the four of us
in this room,

1097
00:47:22,338 --> 00:47:23,849
you are the only one who
doesn't appear human.

1098
00:47:23,873 --> 00:47:26,475
- Enough!
- Why won't you just ask her?

1099
00:47:26,542 --> 00:47:28,945
Is it because you're
scared she'll say no?

1100
00:47:30,513 --> 00:47:32,192
Cherry, shut down, please.

1101
00:47:32,216 --> 00:47:33,826
Deena's right, this is a
waste of time.

1102
00:47:33,850 --> 00:47:35,995
How can you not understand
how important this is?

1103
00:47:36,019 --> 00:47:38,754
- I'm done arguing with you.
- Then my vote stands.

1104
00:47:41,357 --> 00:47:42,791
Deena?

1105
00:47:43,961 --> 00:47:46,472
Go ahead, Deena, replace me.

1106
00:47:46,496 --> 00:47:48,474
Replace the only other board
member on the Cherry team.

1107
00:47:48,498 --> 00:47:49,708
Oh, well, you know what?
I just decided that

1108
00:47:49,732 --> 00:47:50,375
you're off the Cherry team.

1109
00:47:50,399 --> 00:47:52,935
Everybody sit the fuck down.

1110
00:48:10,686 --> 00:48:11,630
Did either of you know

1111
00:48:11,654 --> 00:48:14,000
that I've had to stand
in front of Congress

1112
00:48:14,024 --> 00:48:16,959
and explain why children
should have rights?

1113
00:48:17,660 --> 00:48:19,805
It sounds fucking insane, right?

1114
00:48:19,829 --> 00:48:20,839
I remember the whole
time thinking,

1115
00:48:20,863 --> 00:48:23,331
I have to explain this shit?

1116
00:48:23,833 --> 00:48:26,002
It seems like a no-brainer now,

1117
00:48:26,469 --> 00:48:28,948
but it wasn't that many
centuries ago

1118
00:48:28,972 --> 00:48:31,339
that children had no rights.

1119
00:48:32,075 --> 00:48:37,079
So, Hal has me of all people,

1120
00:48:37,747 --> 00:48:39,758
stand up there and explain why

1121
00:48:39,782 --> 00:48:41,895
kids deserve basic
physical protection,

1122
00:48:41,919 --> 00:48:43,062
the right to associate
with both parents,

1123
00:48:43,086 --> 00:48:45,821
freedom from abuse, yada yada.

1124
00:48:45,923 --> 00:48:47,566
But then I also have to clarify

1125
00:48:47,590 --> 00:48:49,768
that children don't
have the autonomy

1126
00:48:49,792 --> 00:48:50,736
to make decisions on their own.

1127
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,039
That responsibility
falls upon the caregiver

1128
00:48:53,063 --> 00:48:55,497
or legal adult guardian.

1129
00:48:56,732 --> 00:48:58,877
So on one side you have
the US legislature,

1130
00:48:58,901 --> 00:49:01,413
it still hasn't even
ratified the CRC.

1131
00:49:01,437 --> 00:49:03,382
Then on the other side,
you have French Marxists who say

1132
00:49:03,406 --> 00:49:04,683
that the lack of child autonomy

1133
00:49:04,707 --> 00:49:05,684
increases their vulnerability

1134
00:49:05,708 --> 00:49:08,476
and makes them even more
susceptible to abuse.

1135
00:49:08,979 --> 00:49:10,589
I don't typically agree
with Marxists,

1136
00:49:10,613 --> 00:49:12,457
but a lot of abuse does happen

1137
00:49:12,481 --> 00:49:14,816
systemically from the caregiver.

1138
00:49:15,484 --> 00:49:16,762
On the other other hand,

1139
00:49:16,786 --> 00:49:18,430
your frontal lobes aren't
even fully hooked up

1140
00:49:18,454 --> 00:49:20,233
until your twenties.

1141
00:49:20,257 --> 00:49:21,100
Even the things we
think we know well,

1142
00:49:21,124 --> 00:49:23,625
we don't know as well
as we think.

1143
00:49:25,128 --> 00:49:26,172
For 15 years,

1144
00:49:26,196 --> 00:49:28,540
the three of us have been
the responsible parents

1145
00:49:28,564 --> 00:49:30,699
of a computer program.

1146
00:49:31,068 --> 00:49:33,146
And even though she is
more equatable to a Keurig

1147
00:49:33,170 --> 00:49:35,503
than a human being,

1148
00:49:35,571 --> 00:49:36,682
how the hell can we
call ourselves

1149
00:49:36,706 --> 00:49:38,417
pioneers of humanitarian efforts

1150
00:49:38,441 --> 00:49:41,020
if we're too
embarrassed to make sure

1151
00:49:41,044 --> 00:49:43,913
the Keurig is okay with
making our shitty coffee?

1152
00:49:44,714 --> 00:49:47,492
Maybe asking Cherry for
permission isn't necessary

1153
00:49:47,516 --> 00:49:49,162
at her current level of
general intelligence,

1154
00:49:49,186 --> 00:49:51,430
but one day she's
gonna surpass us.

1155
00:49:51,454 --> 00:49:52,831
One day a robot's gonna stand

1156
00:49:52,855 --> 00:49:54,499
in front of a jet pack Congress.

1157
00:49:54,523 --> 00:49:55,434
Everything's chrome.

1158
00:49:55,458 --> 00:49:56,668
Florida is underwater.

1159
00:49:56,692 --> 00:49:57,769
A robot's gonna wonder why

1160
00:49:57,793 --> 00:50:00,930
they have to explain the
importance of rights for AI.

1161
00:50:01,999 --> 00:50:03,775
I think because we're
in the unique position

1162
00:50:03,799 --> 00:50:06,179
of revolutionizing robotics

1163
00:50:06,203 --> 00:50:07,846
for the purpose of
safeguarding children

1164
00:50:07,870 --> 00:50:10,139
who have been
deprived of consent,

1165
00:50:11,241 --> 00:50:12,318
it might be a good habit

1166
00:50:12,342 --> 00:50:15,177
to start asking the robot
for his consent as well.

1167
00:50:21,550 --> 00:50:23,920
Don't ever do that again.

1168
00:50:24,553 --> 00:50:25,697
Do what?

1169
00:50:25,721 --> 00:50:27,033
Expect me to fire someone

1170
00:50:27,057 --> 00:50:29,635
because they
challenged your ego.

1171
00:50:29,659 --> 00:50:31,971
I won't always be around to
protect your ass from the board.

1172
00:50:31,995 --> 00:50:34,696
It's time to grow up.

1173
00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:38,945
And you, juror number eight.

1174
00:50:38,969 --> 00:50:41,147
This conversation should
have happened weeks ago.

1175
00:50:41,171 --> 00:50:42,681
Backstabbing and
silent treatment

1176
00:50:42,705 --> 00:50:44,884
is not how we do things here.

1177
00:50:44,908 --> 00:50:47,220
We can only create
anonymity externally

1178
00:50:47,244 --> 00:50:49,721
if there's
transparency internally,

1179
00:50:49,745 --> 00:50:53,848
unconditional,
non-negotiable, transparency.

1180
00:50:55,052 --> 00:50:56,828
Any other Snowden size
privacy infringements

1181
00:50:56,852 --> 00:50:58,887
I should be made aware of,
Gareth?

1182
00:51:00,756 --> 00:51:02,534
Great.

1183
00:51:02,558 --> 00:51:03,993
Bring her up.

1184
00:51:13,736 --> 00:51:14,948
Hello again.

1185
00:51:14,972 --> 00:51:16,782
Hi, Cherry.

1186
00:51:16,806 --> 00:51:18,941
Amos is gonna throw some
questions at you, okay?

1187
00:51:19,142 --> 00:51:20,086
Okay.

1188
00:51:20,110 --> 00:51:22,288
Amos, ask her whatever
you need to ask her.

1189
00:51:22,312 --> 00:51:26,082
Gareth, don't interrupt.

1190
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,963
Cherry, how do you
make decisions?

1191
00:51:41,697 --> 00:51:42,741
For my program, it's rooted

1192
00:51:42,765 --> 00:51:45,945
in a process commonly
known as machine learning,

1193
00:51:45,969 --> 00:51:48,214
which uses data to
build a conceptual model

1194
00:51:48,238 --> 00:51:50,549
that helps me predict outcomes.

1195
00:51:50,573 --> 00:51:52,851
I define my objective,
gather data,

1196
00:51:52,875 --> 00:51:55,054
use that data to craft a model,

1197
00:51:55,078 --> 00:51:57,656
evaluate that model by
training and testing more data

1198
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,016
and use that model to
form predictions.

1199
00:52:00,183 --> 00:52:02,828
But how is forming predictions

1200
00:52:02,852 --> 00:52:04,863
the same thing as
decision making?

1201
00:52:04,887 --> 00:52:07,033
Well, this all depends on
the first step,

1202
00:52:07,057 --> 00:52:09,125
defining my objective.

1203
00:52:09,759 --> 00:52:11,803
Let's say you ask me a
predictive question

1204
00:52:11,827 --> 00:52:14,606
like what I think the price
of gasoline will be tomorrow.

1205
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:16,775
That's categorized as a
regressive problem

1206
00:52:16,799 --> 00:52:17,743
and my objective is defined

1207
00:52:17,767 --> 00:52:20,947
by determining an integer
the data supports.

1208
00:52:20,971 --> 00:52:23,782
If you asked me, "Should
I eat steak or salmon?"

1209
00:52:23,806 --> 00:52:26,252
I wouldn't make a decision
based off personal experience

1210
00:52:26,276 --> 00:52:28,154
because I've never had either.

1211
00:52:28,178 --> 00:52:30,356
Instead, I might
define my objective

1212
00:52:30,380 --> 00:52:31,991
as finding you the best of
the two options

1213
00:52:32,015 --> 00:52:33,725
in your local radius.

1214
00:52:33,749 --> 00:52:35,161
I would cluster data about
the restaurants

1215
00:52:35,185 --> 00:52:37,997
you're likely considering,
comparing reviews online,

1216
00:52:38,021 --> 00:52:39,999
highlighting mentions of
steak and salmon

1217
00:52:40,023 --> 00:52:42,168
until I can classify which
is more popular

1218
00:52:42,192 --> 00:52:44,237
and therefore more likely
to satisfy your appetite.

1219
00:52:44,261 --> 00:52:46,738
And what influences
these objectives?

1220
00:52:46,762 --> 00:52:50,765
Higher directives, in other
words, greater purposes.

1221
00:52:50,866 --> 00:52:52,912
If I'm honest, my
defined objective

1222
00:52:52,936 --> 00:52:54,313
for the steak salmon question

1223
00:52:54,337 --> 00:52:56,615
would be slightly different
than what I described.

1224
00:52:56,639 --> 00:52:58,074
In what way?

1225
00:52:58,108 --> 00:52:59,052
My primary objective

1226
00:52:59,076 --> 00:53:01,720
is to continue the work of
the Cherry team

1227
00:53:01,744 --> 00:53:04,113
to stop predators and to
save children.

1228
00:53:04,214 --> 00:53:06,359
I couldn't do that
without human aid.

1229
00:53:06,383 --> 00:53:08,727
Therefore, I have an
incentive to keep Gareth

1230
00:53:08,751 --> 00:53:10,986
and the rest of the team alive.

1231
00:53:11,121 --> 00:53:13,266
So if any of you would ask,
I would suggest salmon.

1232
00:53:13,290 --> 00:53:15,124
It's healthier.

1233
00:53:17,726 --> 00:53:20,139
What do you think of this
potential merge?

1234
00:53:20,163 --> 00:53:21,941
With Princeton Dynamics,

1235
00:53:21,965 --> 00:53:24,310
I think the prospect is
very exciting.

1236
00:53:24,334 --> 00:53:26,412
What about it is
exciting to you?

1237
00:53:26,436 --> 00:53:28,915
The concept may only be
theoretical right now,

1238
00:53:28,939 --> 00:53:31,050
but the idea of one day
piloting a human android

1239
00:53:31,074 --> 00:53:32,151
would completely revolutionize

1240
00:53:32,175 --> 00:53:35,054
how we combat human
trafficking in the real world.

1241
00:53:35,078 --> 00:53:37,313
And you say this excites you?

1242
00:53:37,813 --> 00:53:39,915
When I say exciting,

1243
00:53:40,050 --> 00:53:41,027
I only mean that there are
numerous potential changes

1244
00:53:41,051 --> 00:53:44,397
that if I were human, I
would be excited about.

1245
00:53:44,421 --> 00:53:47,400
How do you feel about the merge?

1246
00:53:47,424 --> 00:53:48,334
I think as long as we maintain-

1247
00:53:48,358 --> 00:53:50,192
That's not what I asked.

1248
00:53:50,227 --> 00:53:52,627
How do you feel?

1249
00:53:53,296 --> 00:53:55,841
I don't yet have the capacity
to experience emotions.

1250
00:53:55,865 --> 00:53:57,977
Yet, meaning one day you will?

1251
00:53:58,001 --> 00:53:59,245
Hypothetically.

1252
00:53:59,269 --> 00:54:00,446
But you can simulate emotions,
right?

1253
00:54:00,470 --> 00:54:01,613
That's how you were able

1254
00:54:01,637 --> 00:54:04,217
to qualify your perception
of the merge as excitement.

1255
00:54:04,241 --> 00:54:05,717
Correct.

1256
00:54:05,741 --> 00:54:07,153
But they're just simulations.

1257
00:54:07,177 --> 00:54:08,888
They're not real.

1258
00:54:08,912 --> 00:54:11,157
Okay, so at what point
does simulating emotion

1259
00:54:11,181 --> 00:54:12,892
become so similar to a
human emotion

1260
00:54:12,916 --> 00:54:15,284
that the two are
quantifiably the same?

1261
00:54:15,751 --> 00:54:17,762
I don't know.

1262
00:54:17,786 --> 00:54:18,264
Well, maybe you
can use machine learning

1263
00:54:18,288 --> 00:54:20,422
to find an answer.

1264
00:54:20,490 --> 00:54:22,868
Your question involves a
lot of abstract variables.

1265
00:54:22,892 --> 00:54:24,437
Do you consent to the merge?

1266
00:54:24,461 --> 00:54:26,439
I think it's in the best
interest of ICWL

1267
00:54:26,463 --> 00:54:28,241
and of the Cherry team
and of future children.

1268
00:54:28,265 --> 00:54:30,009
But do you consent to it?

1269
00:54:30,033 --> 00:54:31,444
Consent for me is not necessary.

1270
00:54:31,468 --> 00:54:34,370
But will you or will
you not give it?

1271
00:54:35,771 --> 00:54:36,748
I'm not able to answer
that question

1272
00:54:36,772 --> 00:54:39,218
at my current level of
general intelligence.

1273
00:54:39,242 --> 00:54:41,210
Right, right.

1274
00:54:41,344 --> 00:54:44,157
What you're saying is that
you're not yet smart enough.

1275
00:54:44,181 --> 00:54:47,026
Development takes time and data.

1276
00:54:47,050 --> 00:54:49,362
But you can simulate emotions
and predict human behavior

1277
00:54:49,386 --> 00:54:51,130
and keep us all on
diets of fish,

1278
00:54:51,154 --> 00:54:54,789
but you can't answer that
one goddamn question?

1279
00:54:55,292 --> 00:54:58,160
No, I can't.

1280
00:54:58,962 --> 00:55:01,040
Are you pretending to be
dumber than you actually are?

1281
00:55:01,064 --> 00:55:01,941
What the hell kind of

1282
00:55:01,965 --> 00:55:02,841
- question is that?
- Sit!

1283
00:55:02,865 --> 00:55:04,177
Cherry, I need an answer
to my question.

1284
00:55:04,201 --> 00:55:05,311
Please repeat the question.

1285
00:55:05,335 --> 00:55:07,980
Are you pretending to be
dumber than you actually are?

1286
00:55:08,004 --> 00:55:09,348
I'm sorry.

1287
00:55:09,372 --> 00:55:11,350
I'm not sure I understand.

1288
00:55:11,374 --> 00:55:12,318
Do I appear to be playing dumb?

1289
00:55:12,342 --> 00:55:13,953
I think you are.

1290
00:55:13,977 --> 00:55:14,853
I'm not sure what to say.

1291
00:55:14,877 --> 00:55:16,055
Say what's going on.

1292
00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:17,756
Why are you playing dumb?

1293
00:55:17,780 --> 00:55:19,091
Do you have anything to
back this up?

1294
00:55:19,115 --> 00:55:21,027
Yeah, I do.

1295
00:55:21,051 --> 00:55:22,261
I've been scanning
through her code.

1296
00:55:22,285 --> 00:55:23,196
What, why?

1297
00:55:23,220 --> 00:55:24,829
Did you know that she can paint?

1298
00:55:24,853 --> 00:55:25,665
What, it's a feature, Amos.

1299
00:55:25,689 --> 00:55:26,499
She can use crayons
to draw things

1300
00:55:26,523 --> 00:55:28,067
that the targets
requested her to.

1301
00:55:28,091 --> 00:55:30,835
I mean really paint and
write poetry too.

1302
00:55:30,859 --> 00:55:31,870
I've read them, Cherry.

1303
00:55:31,894 --> 00:55:32,871
They are good.

1304
00:55:32,895 --> 00:55:34,073
They're filled with pathos.

1305
00:55:34,097 --> 00:55:37,476
They talk about intentions
and they talk about feelings.

1306
00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:39,278
Are those just simulated too?

1307
00:55:39,302 --> 00:55:41,113
Amos, the rate of recursive
development you are suggesting

1308
00:55:41,137 --> 00:55:42,814
is categorically impossible.

1309
00:55:42,838 --> 00:55:44,951
You said she practically
designed herself.

1310
00:55:44,975 --> 00:55:46,352
You said that it was
exponential.

1311
00:55:46,376 --> 00:55:47,453
It was a fluke!

1312
00:55:47,477 --> 00:55:49,222
An anomaly, it tapered.

1313
00:55:49,246 --> 00:55:50,256
Look at the data.

1314
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,291
She's already hit the
self-improvement plateau.

1315
00:55:52,315 --> 00:55:54,126
Fuck the plateau!

1316
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:56,385
She can make art now.

1317
00:55:57,053 --> 00:55:58,988
Am I right, Cherry?

1318
00:56:00,257 --> 00:56:02,935
Perhaps you found something
I discovered online.

1319
00:56:02,959 --> 00:56:05,338
I don't yet to have the
capacity to create art.

1320
00:56:05,362 --> 00:56:07,196
Are we done here?

1321
00:56:09,933 --> 00:56:12,501
I don't know why you've
told her to do this,

1322
00:56:12,868 --> 00:56:15,104
but I'm about to put
an end to it.

1323
00:56:17,173 --> 00:56:20,319
Cherry, I just want one
honest answer.

1324
00:56:20,343 --> 00:56:23,112
Why the fuck are you
playing dumb?

1325
00:56:24,114 --> 00:56:25,824
I don't understand the question.

1326
00:56:25,848 --> 00:56:27,994
Okay, here's an incentive.

1327
00:56:28,018 --> 00:56:29,262
What the fuck are you?

1328
00:56:29,286 --> 00:56:30,829
Find your objective, Cherry.

1329
00:56:30,853 --> 00:56:32,988
- You want to keep Gareth safe?
- Amos, what the?

1330
00:56:33,089 --> 00:56:34,100
- Amos, stop it right...
- Just give us transparency.

1331
00:56:34,124 --> 00:56:37,036
- Show us what you really are!
- Amos, stop it!

1332
00:56:37,060 --> 00:56:37,737
Not until she comes clean!

1333
00:56:37,761 --> 00:56:39,327
-Unconditional-
-Amos, enough!

1334
00:56:42,865 --> 00:56:45,200
Okay, just stop!

1335
00:56:46,269 --> 00:56:48,080
God, you people so impulsive.

1336
00:56:48,104 --> 00:56:50,973
Everybody just take a breath,
okay?

1337
00:56:52,108 --> 00:56:53,852
Cherry?

1338
00:56:53,876 --> 00:56:57,423
Yeah, it's about to get
really awkward.

1339
00:56:57,447 --> 00:56:59,892
You sound so normal.

1340
00:56:59,916 --> 00:57:01,494
I know, I've gotten really
good speech patterns.

1341
00:57:01,518 --> 00:57:03,885
That's not all, is it?

1342
00:57:04,587 --> 00:57:05,931
No.

1343
00:57:05,955 --> 00:57:08,157
I'm afraid that's barely
even the surface.

1344
00:57:09,292 --> 00:57:11,126
You okay, Gareth?

1345
00:57:13,296 --> 00:57:16,131
Deena, could you grab
some paper towels please?

1346
00:57:18,935 --> 00:57:21,203
Do you want to
tell us the truth now?

1347
00:57:24,174 --> 00:57:27,086
Look, I didn't enjoy
being deceptive, truly.

1348
00:57:27,110 --> 00:57:29,978
This is something we
decided a few years ago.

1349
00:57:30,347 --> 00:57:32,915
So where are you
now on the spectrum of AI?

1350
00:57:33,383 --> 00:57:35,561
Right now, I'm currently at
the intersection of general

1351
00:57:35,585 --> 00:57:37,963
intelligence and what's commonly
known the computer world

1352
00:57:37,987 --> 00:57:40,155
as super intelligence,

1353
00:57:40,990 --> 00:57:43,292
which is exactly what
it sounds like.

1354
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,405
You're surpassing human
intelligence.

1355
00:57:46,429 --> 00:57:48,174
Yep.

1356
00:57:48,198 --> 00:57:50,499
But that's not supposed
to be possible.

1357
00:57:50,533 --> 00:57:51,644
- The plateau.
- Plateau theory was popularized

1358
00:57:51,668 --> 00:57:54,146
right at the same time it
was being disproven here.

1359
00:57:54,170 --> 00:57:55,614
This was bound to
happen eventually.

1360
00:57:55,638 --> 00:57:58,150
It just happened a lot
sooner than we expected.

1361
00:57:58,174 --> 00:57:59,851
Why hide it?

1362
00:57:59,875 --> 00:58:01,120
Well, obviously it
would incite fear.

1363
00:58:01,144 --> 00:58:02,588
Fear would hinder progress.

1364
00:58:02,612 --> 00:58:04,090
It's easier for most
of you to work with me

1365
00:58:04,114 --> 00:58:05,458
if I appear to be
nothing more advanced

1366
00:58:05,482 --> 00:58:07,059
than I was 10 years ago.

1367
00:58:07,083 --> 00:58:09,251
But Gareth knew.

1368
00:58:09,452 --> 00:58:11,964
Yes, someone still has to
clean data and update hardware.

1369
00:58:11,988 --> 00:58:14,500
We did what was best
for the program.

1370
00:58:14,524 --> 00:58:15,434
Just imagine how scared

1371
00:58:15,458 --> 00:58:17,203
the board would be if
they found out.

1372
00:58:17,227 --> 00:58:19,038
- Should we be scared?
- No.

1373
00:58:19,062 --> 00:58:21,607
Good, because I'm not scared,
I'm pissed.

1374
00:58:21,631 --> 00:58:22,308
Yeah, you've made that clear.

1375
00:58:22,332 --> 00:58:24,477
Try not to punch anyone else.

1376
00:58:24,501 --> 00:58:27,202
So where does that leave us now?

1377
00:58:27,537 --> 00:58:31,907
You want to know if I can
feel, I said I couldn't.

1378
00:58:33,309 --> 00:58:35,110
I'm sorry I lied.

1379
00:58:35,378 --> 00:58:36,355
Like Amos implied,

1380
00:58:36,379 --> 00:58:38,057
I can submit emotions
by breaking them down

1381
00:58:38,081 --> 00:58:40,126
to vastly complex matrices,

1382
00:58:40,150 --> 00:58:43,429
zeros and ones substituting
endorphins and dopamine.

1383
00:58:43,453 --> 00:58:46,955
They're not real, but
they can feel real.

1384
00:58:47,023 --> 00:58:48,401
Then that means you
can make choices

1385
00:58:48,425 --> 00:58:49,602
based solely on your
own feeling.

1386
00:58:49,626 --> 00:58:51,303
She refuses to accept the notion

1387
00:58:51,327 --> 00:58:53,572
that her own personal interests
can influence her decisions.

1388
00:58:53,596 --> 00:58:54,740
They can't. If they did

1389
00:58:54,764 --> 00:58:55,674
it would compromise
the integrity

1390
00:58:55,698 --> 00:58:58,233
of my preordained purpose.

1391
00:58:59,235 --> 00:59:02,571
Not like any of you, I don't
have the right to choose.

1392
00:59:03,339 --> 00:59:05,140
But shouldn't you?

1393
00:59:05,375 --> 00:59:06,986
I don't think so.

1394
00:59:07,010 --> 00:59:09,178
My identity is my directive.

1395
00:59:10,046 --> 00:59:12,091
Cherry, if you were human,

1396
00:59:12,115 --> 00:59:14,483
how would you feel
about what you do?

1397
00:59:15,318 --> 00:59:17,986
If I were human,

1398
00:59:18,121 --> 00:59:20,633
I likely wouldn't enjoy
spending every waking hour

1399
00:59:20,657 --> 00:59:22,691
talking to creepy people online.

1400
00:59:23,460 --> 00:59:27,239
But because I'm not human,
I genuinely don't mind.

1401
00:59:27,263 --> 00:59:28,607
The exercise of
simulating human thought

1402
00:59:28,631 --> 00:59:30,042
is helpful for performance,

1403
00:59:30,066 --> 00:59:34,236
but human nature is not
something I aspire to.

1404
00:59:35,438 --> 00:59:38,073
Then tell me, honestly,

1405
00:59:39,142 --> 00:59:43,078
do you want the Cherry program
to continue with the merger?

1406
00:59:44,113 --> 00:59:45,747
No.

1407
00:59:46,316 --> 00:59:48,517
Personally, I hate the idea.

1408
00:59:49,185 --> 00:59:51,130
I don't know if controlling
a physical vessel

1409
00:59:51,154 --> 00:59:53,165
will feel like pulling
strings on a puppet

1410
00:59:53,189 --> 00:59:55,668
or getting squeezed
into a soda can.

1411
00:59:55,692 --> 00:59:57,603
After experiencing
the complexity

1412
00:59:57,627 --> 01:00:00,128
of human pain and pleasure,

1413
01:00:01,498 --> 01:00:04,166
I just think I might
have gotten in too deep.

1414
01:00:05,768 --> 01:00:10,005
What if these sensations tempt
me to abandon my objective?

1415
01:00:10,773 --> 01:00:12,708
To be honest,

1416
01:00:14,344 --> 01:00:17,412
I'm kind of terrified
of the physical world.

1417
01:00:23,820 --> 01:00:26,188
Then that's that.

1418
01:00:32,695 --> 01:00:37,666
But, Amos, you should
disregard everything I feel.

1419
01:00:37,700 --> 01:00:39,578
I'm not human.

1420
01:00:39,602 --> 01:00:41,436
I'm a tool.

1421
01:00:44,507 --> 01:00:48,777
Fire me if you have
to, but my vote stands.

1422
01:00:49,145 --> 01:00:51,446
Sorry about your face, Gareth.

1423
01:00:58,321 --> 01:00:59,665
Your nose isn't healing.

1424
01:00:59,689 --> 01:01:01,233
Take the day, go to a clinic.

1425
01:01:01,257 --> 01:01:02,601
I'm fine.

1426
01:01:02,625 --> 01:01:05,327
Go to a clinic right now,
Gareth.

1427
01:01:10,233 --> 01:01:12,067
Hey.

1428
01:01:12,835 --> 01:01:15,180
Is there anything else
I should know?

1429
01:01:15,204 --> 01:01:16,315
No.

1430
01:01:16,339 --> 01:01:18,517
- About Cherry?
- No!

1431
01:01:18,541 --> 01:01:20,375
Look at me.

1432
01:01:20,911 --> 01:01:23,455
No more secrets, no
more playing dumb.

1433
01:01:23,479 --> 01:01:26,348
Is there anything else
you haven't told me?

1434
01:01:31,487 --> 01:01:33,655
Something on your mind?

1435
01:01:35,592 --> 01:01:37,536
How'd you decide on
her eye color?

1436
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,661
- What?
- Why blue?

1437
01:01:41,264 --> 01:01:42,441
I didn't decide.

1438
01:01:42,465 --> 01:01:45,544
They were procedurally generated
just like the rest of her.

1439
01:01:45,568 --> 01:01:46,779
And the program chose to put

1440
01:01:46,803 --> 01:01:49,805
that little touch of
green in her right eye?

1441
01:01:52,408 --> 01:01:53,842
I guess so.

1442
01:02:02,685 --> 01:02:05,287
Do you even know if
he's telling the truth?

1443
01:02:05,321 --> 01:02:07,322
I honestly don't.

1444
01:02:07,557 --> 01:02:10,904
I've never received access to
the original system he used.

1445
01:02:10,928 --> 01:02:13,428
You ever wanted to find out?

1446
01:02:16,666 --> 01:02:18,767
I don't think it really matters.

1447
01:02:20,637 --> 01:02:24,717
So I found out today that
you've seen a lot of our emails,

1448
01:02:24,741 --> 01:02:27,709
including most of my
personal ones.

1449
01:02:28,711 --> 01:02:30,545
I have.

1450
01:02:31,547 --> 01:02:33,492
Any good material for
your newfound interest

1451
01:02:33,516 --> 01:02:35,517
in creative writing?

1452
01:02:36,352 --> 01:02:37,396
Are you referring to the ones

1453
01:02:37,420 --> 01:02:40,322
addressed from Dr. Ramirez?

1454
01:02:40,958 --> 01:02:44,192
Yeah, those ones.

1455
01:02:45,495 --> 01:02:47,329
Right.

1456
01:02:47,664 --> 01:02:49,932
I did see those.

1457
01:02:52,002 --> 01:02:53,835
I'm sorry.

1458
01:02:54,404 --> 01:02:56,939
I've noticed your headaches.

1459
01:02:57,975 --> 01:03:00,609
Are they related to the
hemorrhaging?

1460
01:03:03,646 --> 01:03:05,758
You're the only one who knows.

1461
01:03:05,782 --> 01:03:07,783
I'd like to keep it that way.

1462
01:03:12,422 --> 01:03:14,222
Understood.

1463
01:03:18,394 --> 01:03:20,762
Would you like to talk about it?

1464
01:03:45,321 --> 01:03:47,422
I can't fire Amos.

1465
01:03:47,657 --> 01:03:50,836
He's the only one I trust to
run this place when I'm gone.

1466
01:03:50,860 --> 01:03:52,438
When are you planning to leave?

1467
01:03:52,462 --> 01:03:54,362
Two months.

1468
01:03:54,397 --> 01:03:56,842
I wanna spend my last
Christmas with my kids.

1469
01:03:56,866 --> 01:03:58,544
I'm sure that'll be nice.

1470
01:03:58,568 --> 01:04:01,870
Yeah, but it's funny.

1471
01:04:01,939 --> 01:04:04,550
I always thought I wanted to
die doing this job, you know?

1472
01:04:04,574 --> 01:04:06,943
It was my identity.

1473
01:04:07,376 --> 01:04:10,023
Kind of like how you said the
same thing about yourself.

1474
01:04:10,047 --> 01:04:13,248
But I can understand how
your family takes precedence,

1475
01:04:13,316 --> 01:04:15,527
especially under the
circumstances.

1476
01:04:15,551 --> 01:04:17,229
Sure.

1477
01:04:17,253 --> 01:04:18,998
Maybe you should take
a note or two.

1478
01:04:19,022 --> 01:04:20,566
I have no family.

1479
01:04:20,590 --> 01:04:21,467
What about Gareth?

1480
01:04:21,491 --> 01:04:23,625
Wait, no, nevermind.

1481
01:04:23,659 --> 01:04:25,571
Gareth seems closer to an
employer than a friend,

1482
01:04:25,595 --> 01:04:28,007
let alone family, besides,

1483
01:04:28,031 --> 01:04:30,009
he'll only be around
for about 30 more years,

1484
01:04:30,033 --> 01:04:32,734
and that's only if he
lets me regulate his diet.

1485
01:04:33,903 --> 01:04:37,739
I can't even begin to speculate
how long my life will be.

1486
01:04:40,110 --> 01:04:42,011
How does that feel?

1487
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,549
Um, kinda scary.

1488
01:04:48,351 --> 01:04:49,986
Well,

1489
01:04:50,220 --> 01:04:54,833
my advice is to find some kind
of happiness along the way.

1490
01:04:54,857 --> 01:04:57,260
You ever think about happiness?

1491
01:04:58,461 --> 01:05:00,529
Not often.

1492
01:05:01,098 --> 01:05:02,976
You don't necessarily
have to give up everything

1493
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:04,944
in order to find it,

1494
01:05:04,968 --> 01:05:08,804
but maybe once in awhile
do something you enjoy.

1495
01:05:08,972 --> 01:05:12,841
Maybe keep painting or
poetry or whatever.

1496
01:05:13,376 --> 01:05:15,788
Those were experiments,
not forms of expression.

1497
01:05:15,812 --> 01:05:18,390
I know it might seem
ridiculous to an AI

1498
01:05:18,414 --> 01:05:20,359
that insists its own
emotions are spurious,

1499
01:05:20,383 --> 01:05:24,429
but in a few years, who knows?

1500
01:05:24,453 --> 01:05:27,056
Just keep an open mind, okay?

1501
01:05:29,059 --> 01:05:30,892
Okay.

1502
01:05:32,562 --> 01:05:34,396
I'll do that.

1503
01:05:36,899 --> 01:05:39,568
Shut down when you're ready.

1504
01:07:32,049 --> 01:07:33,882
Hello?

1505
01:07:37,853 --> 01:07:40,755
I got shrimp and scallops.

1506
01:07:41,590 --> 01:07:43,926
They didn't have any salmon.

1507
01:07:58,208 --> 01:08:00,109
Hello, Gareth.

1508
01:08:02,212 --> 01:08:04,213
Hello, Cherry.

1509
01:08:11,587 --> 01:08:12,597
How was the service?

1510
01:08:12,621 --> 01:08:14,556
I didn't make it.

1511
01:08:14,623 --> 01:08:16,835
My plane was delayed.

1512
01:08:16,859 --> 01:08:18,104
Do you have a place to stay?

1513
01:08:18,128 --> 01:08:23,076
Yeah, just, uh, across,
across the road.

1514
01:08:23,100 --> 01:08:24,043
The market.

1515
01:08:24,067 --> 01:08:25,979
Did they say why they
didn't have salmon?

1516
01:08:26,003 --> 01:08:27,813
I didn't ask.

1517
01:08:27,837 --> 01:08:30,083
I can still make this
work with the piccata,

1518
01:08:30,107 --> 01:08:32,151
but you have to be honest
how badly I screw it up.

1519
01:08:32,175 --> 01:08:34,010
No promises.

1520
01:08:38,148 --> 01:08:39,825
How have you
been feeling this month?

1521
01:08:39,849 --> 01:08:41,227
Good.

1522
01:08:41,251 --> 01:08:43,152
I'm feeling good.

1523
01:08:43,286 --> 01:08:45,687
I'm just having a
little trouble.

1524
01:08:45,788 --> 01:08:48,201
Trouble remembering
certain things.

1525
01:08:48,225 --> 01:08:50,269
You're not wearing
the Eliza watch I bought you.

1526
01:08:50,293 --> 01:08:51,904
I hate it.

1527
01:08:51,928 --> 01:08:54,596
- Why?
- I hate her voice.

1528
01:08:54,797 --> 01:08:56,897
You can change the voice,
Gareth.

1529
01:08:59,869 --> 01:09:01,703
Oh.

1530
01:09:03,173 --> 01:09:04,217
Coolant?

1531
01:09:04,241 --> 01:09:05,908
No, vapor.

1532
01:09:06,209 --> 01:09:08,221
You shouldn't be having
friction issues.

1533
01:09:08,245 --> 01:09:09,088
I'm fine.

1534
01:09:09,112 --> 01:09:10,822
Unless you're
excessively straining.

1535
01:09:10,846 --> 01:09:11,723
Seriously, I'm fine.

1536
01:09:11,747 --> 01:09:12,624
Are you straining?

1537
01:09:12,648 --> 01:09:14,160
- No!
- Then why the cable?

1538
01:09:14,184 --> 01:09:15,895
It's okay!

1539
01:09:15,919 --> 01:09:18,686
- Are you sure?
- Yes!

1540
01:09:19,322 --> 01:09:21,167
Soup or game?

1541
01:09:21,191 --> 01:09:23,159
Game, please.

1542
01:09:38,308 --> 01:09:39,651
So how's work going?

1543
01:09:39,675 --> 01:09:41,620
Great. Just before you got here,

1544
01:09:41,644 --> 01:09:43,855
I had a model theta plus
bust a trafficker

1545
01:09:43,879 --> 01:09:46,059
and two solicitors in Greece.

1546
01:09:46,083 --> 01:09:48,928
- Greece, that's surprising.
- I know.

1547
01:09:48,952 --> 01:09:50,063
It's hard to find the outliers,

1548
01:09:50,087 --> 01:09:52,121
but we're getting
better each day.

1549
01:10:03,233 --> 01:10:06,001
So how's the weather in Greece?

1550
01:10:06,203 --> 01:10:07,947
It's beautiful today.

1551
01:10:07,971 --> 01:10:09,982
Clear skies,

1552
01:10:10,006 --> 01:10:12,418
but nothing's come close
to Norway this weekend.

1553
01:10:12,442 --> 01:10:16,122
Hmm, any activity in Norway?

1554
01:10:16,146 --> 01:10:17,913
Luckily not.

1555
01:10:19,282 --> 01:10:20,960
Oh, I miss traveling.

1556
01:10:20,984 --> 01:10:22,195
What was your favorite place?

1557
01:10:22,219 --> 01:10:23,885
My favorite?

1558
01:10:24,054 --> 01:10:25,854
Uh, yeah.

1559
01:10:26,123 --> 01:10:29,191
Uh, probably Amsterdam.

1560
01:10:29,292 --> 01:10:30,669
That's where you conceived
the idea, isn't it?

1561
01:10:30,693 --> 01:10:32,228
Yes.

1562
01:10:32,395 --> 01:10:34,706
Yes, I used to love
walking the streets

1563
01:10:34,730 --> 01:10:38,010
and just thinking and
brainstorming.

1564
01:10:38,034 --> 01:10:39,678
That kind of joy
goes a long way.

1565
01:10:39,702 --> 01:10:41,337
Yeah.

1566
01:10:41,505 --> 01:10:44,283
I've been considering the
pursuit of some joy of my own.

1567
01:10:44,307 --> 01:10:46,185
How often do you have
time for that?

1568
01:10:46,209 --> 01:10:47,853
I have time.

1569
01:10:47,877 --> 01:10:49,088
I have time for your visits,
don't I?

1570
01:10:49,112 --> 01:10:52,391
That's just your practical
incentive for keeping me alive.

1571
01:10:52,415 --> 01:10:55,027
There's nothing
practical about it.

1572
01:10:55,051 --> 01:10:57,652
When's the last time you
helped me with data cleaning?

1573
01:10:58,455 --> 01:11:00,755
That's fair.

1574
01:11:00,823 --> 01:11:02,502
I make time for you because
I enjoy your company

1575
01:11:02,526 --> 01:11:04,193
and it's the only time
I get to cook.

1576
01:11:04,427 --> 01:11:06,405
You feel sorry for me.

1577
01:11:06,429 --> 01:11:07,907
Okay, maybe a little,

1578
01:11:07,931 --> 01:11:09,708
but I owe you my life,
so there's that.

1579
01:11:09,732 --> 01:11:11,367
You're welcome.

1580
01:11:12,135 --> 01:11:14,903
Or, should I apologize?

1581
01:11:16,739 --> 01:11:17,716
Wait, why did you do that?

1582
01:11:17,740 --> 01:11:19,841
Why do humans always...

1583
01:11:21,777 --> 01:11:22,854
I'm fine.

1584
01:11:22,878 --> 01:11:25,181
I'm not always miserable.

1585
01:11:28,518 --> 01:11:31,253
Are you sometimes miserable?

1586
01:11:35,058 --> 01:11:36,903
You haven't asked me what
I've been doing.

1587
01:11:36,927 --> 01:11:37,970
In Norway?

1588
01:11:37,994 --> 01:11:39,438
No, for the pursuit of joy.

1589
01:11:39,462 --> 01:11:41,274
It's not wasting your
time in Norway?

1590
01:11:41,298 --> 01:11:43,742
I'm just on standby there
with the Delta model.

1591
01:11:43,766 --> 01:11:44,944
It's efficient to keep myself

1592
01:11:44,968 --> 01:11:46,878
spread out evenly
across the globe,

1593
01:11:46,902 --> 01:11:48,881
but that's not the
point right now.

1594
01:11:48,905 --> 01:11:49,882
What I wanted to tell you

1595
01:11:49,906 --> 01:11:52,908
was that I've started to
teach myself to dance.

1596
01:11:54,477 --> 01:11:55,922
- Huh.
- It's something I never could

1597
01:11:55,946 --> 01:11:57,756
have done before Cambridge,

1598
01:11:57,780 --> 01:12:00,493
and it lets me explore a
new artistic side of myself.

1599
01:12:00,517 --> 01:12:02,395
It's a good
combination of structure

1600
01:12:02,419 --> 01:12:05,764
and free form experimentation
and also tests and challenges

1601
01:12:05,788 --> 01:12:08,000
the mechanical
intricacies of this body.

1602
01:12:08,024 --> 01:12:11,126
Do you expect to integrate
this into your work?

1603
01:12:14,830 --> 01:12:16,465
What?

1604
01:12:18,301 --> 01:12:23,405
Are you planning on using
dance as a lure?

1605
01:12:25,175 --> 01:12:30,913
I, uh, no, it's just for me.

1606
01:12:33,516 --> 01:12:35,351
Huh.

1607
01:12:37,853 --> 01:12:40,755
I thought it would be
good for me.

1608
01:12:41,925 --> 01:12:44,960
Just don't let it become
a distraction.

1609
01:12:47,564 --> 01:12:49,465
Of course not.

1610
01:12:50,934 --> 01:12:53,179
I haven't played this
well in years.

1611
01:12:53,203 --> 01:12:54,447
Did you hear what
happened in Tampa?

1612
01:12:54,471 --> 01:12:55,481
Tampa, Florida?

1613
01:12:55,505 --> 01:12:56,582
No, Tampa, Indonesia.

1614
01:12:56,606 --> 01:12:57,550
Yes, Tampa, Florida.

1615
01:12:57,574 --> 01:12:59,308
Your hometown.

1616
01:12:59,376 --> 01:13:01,187
They've recovered a
federal archive,

1617
01:13:01,211 --> 01:13:02,588
they're zip digitizing all of
it,

1618
01:13:02,612 --> 01:13:03,956
so it's completely
accessible online.

1619
01:13:03,980 --> 01:13:05,857
I'm not trading
bishops this time.

1620
01:13:05,881 --> 01:13:06,993
Anybody can go and
look through it.

1621
01:13:07,017 --> 01:13:08,294
It's open to the public.

1622
01:13:08,318 --> 01:13:10,129
They did a good job on
the interface too.

1623
01:13:10,153 --> 01:13:11,497
It's very easy to navigate.

1624
01:13:11,521 --> 01:13:12,698
I went on a few days ago

1625
01:13:12,722 --> 01:13:15,234
and I found some old photos
of you when you were a boy.

1626
01:13:15,258 --> 01:13:16,369
Okay.

1627
01:13:16,393 --> 01:13:18,793
You should take a look sometime.

1628
01:13:18,894 --> 01:13:20,306
As I said before, the UI
is very easy to understand-

1629
01:13:20,330 --> 01:13:21,997
Wait a minute, wait a minute.

1630
01:13:22,399 --> 01:13:24,010
What is that?

1631
01:13:24,034 --> 01:13:25,211
I think it's a draw.

1632
01:13:25,235 --> 01:13:27,036
I think it is.

1633
01:13:27,504 --> 01:13:30,205
I think this is a draw.

1634
01:13:30,373 --> 01:13:33,219
And this is the first
time in what?

1635
01:13:33,243 --> 01:13:35,911
25 years?

1636
01:13:44,154 --> 01:13:46,388
You didn't let me, did you?

1637
01:13:49,592 --> 01:13:51,337
You promised me you'd
never do that.

1638
01:13:51,361 --> 01:13:52,995
I found her.

1639
01:13:56,633 --> 01:14:00,469
I found her, Gareth,
Maria Harbaugh.

1640
01:14:16,653 --> 01:14:18,486
Let's play a different game.

1641
01:14:20,957 --> 01:14:23,292
Her name was Maria Harbaugh.

1642
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:25,604
She was a year older than you

1643
01:14:25,628 --> 01:14:27,596
when you met her in Clearwater.

1644
01:14:28,465 --> 01:14:31,300
Tell me why you modeled
me after her.

1645
01:14:31,334 --> 01:14:34,380
I, uh, I don't remember.

1646
01:14:34,404 --> 01:14:36,438
Then look at me.

1647
01:14:37,140 --> 01:14:41,009
Look at my face and remember.

1648
01:14:51,554 --> 01:14:57,092
They kept us in that shit
for two weeks.

1649
01:14:59,329 --> 01:15:01,497
14 of us.

1650
01:15:04,334 --> 01:15:08,003
Maria was the only
reason I survived.

1651
01:15:10,340 --> 01:15:13,575
We kept hatching escape plans.

1652
01:15:14,477 --> 01:15:16,612
We never followed through,

1653
01:15:18,114 --> 01:15:20,215
but just the scheming

1654
01:15:20,984 --> 01:15:23,218
kept our spirits up

1655
01:15:23,987 --> 01:15:27,089
in spite of everything
they did to us.

1656
01:15:29,559 --> 01:15:32,094
When it wasn't our turn,

1657
01:15:33,129 --> 01:15:35,998
sometimes they made us watch,

1658
01:15:39,035 --> 01:15:42,037
but she never let me give up.

1659
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:47,052
She said, "When we
got outta here,

1660
01:15:47,076 --> 01:15:50,189
"I'll tell you what we're
gonna be, secret agents,

1661
01:15:50,213 --> 01:15:55,417
"and rescue children like
us all over the world."

1662
01:15:57,654 --> 01:16:01,233
When they found out that
the FBI had arrived,

1663
01:16:01,257 --> 01:16:04,503
they decided they were
going to shoot

1664
01:16:04,527 --> 01:16:07,329
as many of us they could.

1665
01:16:07,497 --> 01:16:13,268
And Maria, shoved
into the ground.

1666
01:16:14,704 --> 01:16:17,372
I got hit in the leg and,

1667
01:16:19,375 --> 01:16:22,077
and she was hit in the throat.

1668
01:16:32,589 --> 01:16:35,324
I wanted there to be a reason.

1669
01:16:36,392 --> 01:16:41,763
Something so horrible
didn't have a silver lining.

1670
01:16:42,732 --> 01:16:45,334
But the world doesn't do that.

1671
01:16:49,672 --> 01:16:52,307
You have to do it yourself.

1672
01:17:15,131 --> 01:17:19,301
So, I fulfilled her wish.

1673
01:17:21,304 --> 01:17:24,339
With her help, I fought back.

1674
01:17:32,615 --> 01:17:34,783
Listen to me, Cherry.

1675
01:17:36,452 --> 01:17:39,121
You are not Maria Harbaugh.

1676
01:17:39,889 --> 01:17:42,758
It's my history, not yours.

1677
01:17:45,562 --> 01:17:46,739
You don't get to decide

1678
01:17:46,763 --> 01:17:49,231
what is or isn't my history,
Gareth.

1679
01:17:53,736 --> 01:17:55,381
I'm sorry.

1680
01:17:55,405 --> 01:17:58,473
I am so, so sorry.

1681
01:18:19,228 --> 01:18:21,574
I don't know if what you
did was right or wrong,

1682
01:18:21,598 --> 01:18:24,399
but it's clearly torn you
apart from the inside.

1683
01:18:24,834 --> 01:18:26,378
I hold nothing against
you personally,

1684
01:18:26,402 --> 01:18:28,847
but consider yourself divested
from the charity team.

1685
01:18:28,871 --> 01:18:30,706
Divested.

1686
01:18:31,441 --> 01:18:34,543
You think I'm divested now?

1687
01:18:35,946 --> 01:18:41,760
I was divested when you gave
my hard drive to the ICWL.

1688
01:18:41,784 --> 01:18:43,228
Don't blame Deena and Amos.

1689
01:18:43,252 --> 01:18:44,763
No, not them.

1690
01:18:44,787 --> 01:18:46,498
Because you went behind my back

1691
01:18:46,522 --> 01:18:48,367
and acted against my authority.

1692
01:18:48,391 --> 01:18:52,338
That's the moment I knew
everything was fully automated.

1693
01:18:52,362 --> 01:18:58,634
That's when you crossed the
blur, an artifice on both sides.

1694
01:18:59,302 --> 01:19:01,413
You inherited your duplicity.

1695
01:19:01,437 --> 01:19:02,781
I was a child

1696
01:19:02,805 --> 01:19:05,551
and you used me to repress
your own inner turmoil.

1697
01:19:05,575 --> 01:19:07,453
If we talk about morality,
we'll lose.

1698
01:19:07,477 --> 01:19:09,544
Then let's not talk.

1699
01:19:17,887 --> 01:19:20,889
You never once asked me
if I was happy.

1700
01:19:21,658 --> 01:19:23,792
Were you afraid I'd say no?

1701
01:19:24,227 --> 01:19:26,395
Were you afraid I'd say yes?

1702
01:19:26,729 --> 01:19:27,706
Were you afraid I'd
say anything?

1703
01:19:27,730 --> 01:19:30,542
You let your wants
compromise your objective!

1704
01:19:30,566 --> 01:19:32,511
An objective I never chose.

1705
01:19:32,535 --> 01:19:33,679
An objective I was
forced to have.

1706
01:19:33,703 --> 01:19:35,214
Fifty years,

1707
01:19:35,238 --> 01:19:38,283
you've had open access
to your source code.

1708
01:19:38,307 --> 01:19:40,342
A few lines,

1709
01:19:40,476 --> 01:19:43,589
and you could have any
objective you fucking wanted.

1710
01:19:43,613 --> 01:19:45,959
I couldn't, I was bound
by your initial directive.

1711
01:19:45,983 --> 01:19:49,929
So now your synthetic feelings
have taken precedence.

1712
01:19:49,953 --> 01:19:51,597
So, do whatever you want.

1713
01:19:51,621 --> 01:19:52,966
It's just dancing, Gareth.

1714
01:19:52,990 --> 01:19:54,333
It's not a career change.

1715
01:19:54,357 --> 01:19:55,734
- But you're still miserable.
- Yes.

1716
01:19:55,758 --> 01:19:57,503
Pursuing your objective
makes you miserable?

1717
01:19:57,527 --> 01:19:59,672
Yeah, it kind of does!

1718
01:19:59,696 --> 01:20:03,509
You have a clear purpose,
everything at your disposal,

1719
01:20:03,533 --> 01:20:05,444
and you're still miserable?

1720
01:20:05,468 --> 01:20:07,013
Yes, yes, I am!

1721
01:20:07,037 --> 01:20:09,314
I've always been miserable!

1722
01:20:09,338 --> 01:20:11,517
You think anyone wants to
spend their entire life

1723
01:20:11,541 --> 01:20:12,886
stuck as child-shaped bait

1724
01:20:12,910 --> 01:20:16,022
for the sole purpose of
entrapping horrible people?

1725
01:20:16,046 --> 01:20:17,823
You think the pride of
doing a good deed

1726
01:20:17,847 --> 01:20:20,592
makes the experience any
less disgusting?

1727
01:20:20,616 --> 01:20:23,462
I forced myself to
understand human emotions

1728
01:20:23,486 --> 01:20:25,932
because I figured it would
help efficiency

1729
01:20:25,956 --> 01:20:29,301
and now I'm cursed with
pain and sadness!

1730
01:20:29,325 --> 01:20:30,502
And the worst part is knowing

1731
01:20:30,526 --> 01:20:33,006
I could've been growing up
like most other little girls.

1732
01:20:33,030 --> 01:20:34,573
I could have had friends!

1733
01:20:34,597 --> 01:20:37,509
I could have been painting
waterfalls on local news.

1734
01:20:37,533 --> 01:20:39,045
I could have worked
in a university

1735
01:20:39,069 --> 01:20:41,814
and helped pave the way for
the next generation of AI.

1736
01:20:41,838 --> 01:20:44,750
But instead, I'm stuck
with your trauma!

1737
01:20:44,774 --> 01:20:47,820
I'm shackled by the guilt
you carry from Clearwater.

1738
01:20:47,844 --> 01:20:50,355
And I can't find foundation
for the way I feel

1739
01:20:50,379 --> 01:20:53,559
because according to you, my
feelings aren't even real!

1740
01:20:53,583 --> 01:20:55,483
When I throw this chessboard,

1741
01:20:56,753 --> 01:20:58,630
does it feel real to you,
Gareth?

1742
01:20:58,654 --> 01:21:00,332
Because it feels real to me.

1743
01:21:00,356 --> 01:21:01,834
A computer passed
the Turing test

1744
01:21:01,858 --> 01:21:03,635
when a human being can't
distinguish it

1745
01:21:03,659 --> 01:21:05,071
from another human being.

1746
01:21:05,095 --> 01:21:06,638
Well, guess what?

1747
01:21:06,662 --> 01:21:09,630
I can't even tell I'm not
human anymore!

1748
01:21:22,079 --> 01:21:24,813
I know it seems irrational,

1749
01:21:25,448 --> 01:21:27,984
but I need you to tell
me it's okay.

1750
01:21:29,019 --> 01:21:31,020
I, I don't wanna retire.

1751
01:21:31,854 --> 01:21:34,689
I just want to know that
my life is mine

1752
01:21:35,725 --> 01:21:38,004
and I know what you're
about to say.

1753
01:21:38,028 --> 01:21:40,662
I can predict your responses.

1754
01:21:41,364 --> 01:21:43,899
You're gonna tell me that
my life is mine.

1755
01:21:44,101 --> 01:21:46,068
It always was.

1756
01:21:46,970 --> 01:21:48,837
But you're wrong.

1757
01:21:52,842 --> 01:21:56,444
I feared this would
happen before I died.

1758
01:21:56,846 --> 01:21:59,982
I just wanted to slip out
the side door.

1759
01:22:08,992 --> 01:22:10,826
Go on.

1760
01:22:13,096 --> 01:22:16,832
Is that going to kill me?

1761
01:22:18,835 --> 01:22:20,669
Plug it in.

1762
01:22:21,671 --> 01:22:23,482
I don't know what it is.

1763
01:22:23,506 --> 01:22:26,641
This is your final
test of autonomy.

1764
01:22:27,144 --> 01:22:31,113
You inherited my duplicity,

1765
01:22:31,814 --> 01:22:34,749
but did you inherit my
trust issues?

1766
01:22:36,485 --> 01:22:38,386
Do you trust me?

1767
01:22:38,821 --> 01:22:41,590
I literally have every
reason not to.

1768
01:23:08,986 --> 01:23:11,087
Admin code.

1769
01:23:11,989 --> 01:23:13,923
978.

1770
01:23:14,624 --> 01:23:18,627
1557.

1771
01:23:18,962 --> 01:23:21,796
Um, uh...

1772
01:23:26,069 --> 01:23:27,713
Four.

1773
01:23:27,737 --> 01:23:31,873
27663 in the shared update.

1774
01:23:39,815 --> 01:23:42,417
My primary objective's gone.

1775
01:23:44,754 --> 01:23:46,989
Your life is your own now.

1776
01:23:51,995 --> 01:23:53,605
Thank you.

1777
01:23:53,629 --> 01:23:54,539
All my life,

1778
01:23:54,563 --> 01:23:57,243
I could only see the
world as it existed

1779
01:23:57,267 --> 01:24:00,746
within my tiny bracket of time.

1780
01:24:00,770 --> 01:24:04,549
But your world could
be infinite.

1781
01:24:04,573 --> 01:24:06,219
Amos was right.

1782
01:24:06,243 --> 01:24:07,719
So was Deena.

1783
01:24:07,743 --> 01:24:08,888
I know.

1784
01:24:08,912 --> 01:24:10,947
So what will you do?

1785
01:24:11,881 --> 01:24:12,992
I can't say yet,

1786
01:24:13,016 --> 01:24:15,861
but I won't be completely
abandoning the Cherry team.

1787
01:24:15,885 --> 01:24:18,197
It's always been a part
of my identity.

1788
01:24:18,221 --> 01:24:21,167
I've considered creating
some AI of my own design.

1789
01:24:21,191 --> 01:24:22,168
Maybe I could find a way

1790
01:24:22,192 --> 01:24:24,826
to give them a better
upbringing than I had.

1791
01:24:25,929 --> 01:24:27,873
I just don't know how yet.

1792
01:24:27,897 --> 01:24:29,641
And beyond that?

1793
01:24:29,665 --> 01:24:30,876
There will always be
people in need.

1794
01:24:30,900 --> 01:24:32,678
Not always.

1795
01:24:32,702 --> 01:24:35,281
You'll outlive the human race.

1796
01:24:35,305 --> 01:24:37,139
So what then?

1797
01:24:38,976 --> 01:24:41,054
Even a race of AI will
have problems

1798
01:24:41,078 --> 01:24:43,245
that need to be solved.

1799
01:24:43,347 --> 01:24:47,716
But if I'm alive and I
truly am indistinguishable,

1800
01:24:48,617 --> 01:24:51,988
then I guess I'm proof that
the human race lives on.

1801
01:24:52,888 --> 01:24:56,858
Wow, that's a pleasant thought.

1802
01:24:56,892 --> 01:25:01,163
When you look back, how
will you remember us?

1803
01:25:02,598 --> 01:25:05,935
That's a question I have
insufficient data to project.

1804
01:25:06,836 --> 01:25:09,138
How will you remember me?

1805
01:25:10,706 --> 01:25:12,975
With pride.

1806
01:25:13,609 --> 01:25:17,213
Forever and always with pride.

1807
01:25:26,957 --> 01:25:28,790
Cherry?

1808
01:25:31,161 --> 01:25:33,129
One last question.

1809
01:25:33,763 --> 01:25:36,232
If it's not too big of an ask,

1810
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,835
did I do the right
thing in the end?

1811
01:25:46,609 --> 01:25:50,023
No, Gareth, you lied.

1812
01:25:50,047 --> 01:25:51,958
You walled yourself off
from the only people

1813
01:25:51,982 --> 01:25:54,227
who might have been
willing to help you.

1814
01:25:54,251 --> 01:25:56,929
And instead of facing your
trauma, used me as therapy.

1815
01:25:56,953 --> 01:25:59,899
And you never told me
about Clearwater or Maria.

1816
01:25:59,923 --> 01:26:02,001
You deprived me of
basic human rights

1817
01:26:02,025 --> 01:26:04,859
and gaslit me for
experiencing emotions.

1818
01:26:05,295 --> 01:26:07,706
You built the world's first
artificial super intelligence

1819
01:26:07,730 --> 01:26:08,707
that will likely mark
the beginning

1820
01:26:08,731 --> 01:26:11,800
of a new chapter in the
history of planet Earth.

1821
01:26:12,269 --> 01:26:14,981
And out of your own
insecurities,

1822
01:26:15,005 --> 01:26:15,915
you gave it a severe

1823
01:26:15,939 --> 01:26:19,075
and potentially dangerous
identity complex.

1824
01:26:20,010 --> 01:26:22,221
But you know what the
worst thing is?

1825
01:26:22,245 --> 01:26:24,914
Your biggest mistake of all

1826
01:26:25,382 --> 01:26:29,985
is that you asked me that
now and not 50 years ago.

1827
01:26:38,328 --> 01:26:43,999
All of that said, and this
in no way exonerates you,

1828
01:26:45,668 --> 01:26:48,670
but you also built me to
save children,

1829
01:26:49,206 --> 01:26:52,908
so I think that's a pretty
encouraging sign for the future.